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| Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba | |
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cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 28/5/2013, 16:27 | |
| - Shelldrake wrote:
- We put a big wooden pole (The name escapes me) in either side of the trail, lifted it up and manoeuvred it where required - we were young and fit in those days!
Ta ! Big wooden pole seems to suffice......... Only came across a 5.5 once and that was when I was on a course at the Army MT School in Borden. We watched ........from a distance as a Gunner might have been dragged in...... when a gang of REME lads were hitching it up to a Matador. On tarmac it seemed to be easy enough to lift the trail ....( without a wooden pole) ...... when the thing was nicely balanced over the axle. | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 28/5/2013, 16:53 | |
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| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 28/5/2013, 17:36 | |
| - Shelldrake wrote:
- We put a big wooden pole (The name escapes me) in either side of the trail, lifted it up and manoeuvred it where required - we were young and fit in those days!
BIG WOODEN POLE ?Dear oh dear ! I'm pretty sure the handspikes were wooden on the 5.5 and definitely metal on the 25pdr. It was quite common, in my old mob, that a fireplan would involve big switches. When such a thing happened bodies, from the command post and other hidey-holes around the gun position, were rushed to the guns to help drag them to point in the new direction. | |
| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 29/5/2013, 09:35 | |
| It's gratifying to see that, seemingly, this site has been taken over by members of the Royal Regiment, when it was once dominated by Scaleys.......... And what has become of Gordon ? | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 29/5/2013, 10:16 | |
| Yes, it has gone quiet hasn't it ? Could it be that they're observing some sort of Scaley Ramadan ?
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| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 30/5/2013, 16:14 | |
| A Regiment of 5.5in guns in straight(ish) line deployment in what could be Larkhill. Nearest to the camera, behind the first gun, is a Handspike - looks like it is wooden. | |
| | | Dee Z WOI
Number of posts : 171 Age : 79 Cap Badge : RA Places Served : Pembroke Dock, Lippstadt,Plymouth, Middle east, Singapore Registration date : 2011-07-15
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 30/5/2013, 17:26 | |
| I did a short stint on them in Pembroke Dock hard work got soaked when it rained. A champ pulled up next to our gun I spied a signaler in the back all dry with headsets on and thought that's my next move. I retrospect a bad move because promotion was with the guns | |
| | | Dulaigh WOI
Number of posts : 135 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick Newark Aldershot 201Shorncliffe WinterbourneGunner TOS SHARJAH Bunde 249 Singapore NE Thailand Aldershot Catterick Registration date : 2012-03-19
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 30/5/2013, 21:53 | |
| All this GUNS business is new to us scaleys as we never came anywhere close to them in the field. I think you must have provided your own signals (voice) as you mentioned the 19 set and possibly the 52 set. So I am amazed. | |
| | | ritter Maj
Number of posts : 265 Age : 95 Localisation : North Huron Township, ON,Canada Cap Badge : Royal Canadian Artillery Places Served : CFB Valcartier, CFB Borden, AFVR Meaford, Ipperwash, CAN; Hannover, Putlos; 21 Fd Regt RCA(M) Registration date : 2011-07-09
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 30/5/2013, 22:18 | |
| BAOR(27CIB) Great picture Shelldrake and I would think a rare one as well with the guns deployed in an almost wheel to wheel alignment. I tried counting the guns with great difficulty and came to ca 16. I have never witnessed anything larger than a battery shoot in Canada with the RCA(M). Gnr Ritter | |
| | | Hardrations Let Gen
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook) Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 00:05 | |
| Troop Shoot Bty. Shoot Regt. Shoot C.O's Shoot, his ammo was lost some where on the train system. Not a happy chappy. | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| | | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 08:08 | |
| - Shelldrake wrote:
A Regiment of 5.5in guns in straight(ish) line deployment in what could be Larkhill. Nearest to the camera, behind the first gun, is a Handspike - looks like it is wooden. Larkhill ! Here's me thinking it was "a gun position in NW Europe". The area looks like a rubbish tip, people are standing around with their hands in their pockets and (I think), I counted 17 guns. Absolute SHOWER ! | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 08:10 | |
| - ritter wrote:
- BAOR(27CIB)
Great picture Shelldrake and I would think a rare one as well with the guns deployed in an almost wheel to wheel alignment. I tried counting the guns with great difficulty and came to ca 16. I have never witnessed anything larger than a battery shoot in Canada with the RCA(M). Gnr Ritter Thanks Bob, I also made it 16, wonder where the other two went (Unless they were Pistol Guns!!). I recall in the 60s and early 70s, on completion of a 6 week Practice Camp, we would have a Fire Power Demonstration comprising all the Div Arty, a stirring sight to behold! Civilian and Military (Including representatives from SOXMIS) luminaries were invited to observe. This was normally followed by a formal Lunch in the Field. | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 08:11 | |
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| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 08:13 | |
| - Dulaigh wrote:
- All this GUNS business is new to us scaleys as we never came anywhere close to them in the field. I think you must have provided your own signals (voice) as you mentioned the 19 set and possibly the 52 set. So I am amazed.
We had to "provide our own signals", they couldn't find a scaley who was fast enough to handle Fire Orders. They even let us have C45/B47s as well ! | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 08:15 | |
| [quote="Shelldrake"] - ritter wrote:
- BAOR(27CIB)
Great picture Shelldrake and I would think a rare one as well with the guns deployed in an almost wheel to wheel alignment. I tried counting the guns with great difficulty and came to ca 16. I have never witnessed anything larger than a battery shoot in Canada with the RCA(M). Gnr Ritter I recall in the 60s and early 70s, on completion of a 6 week Practice Camp, we would have a Fire Power Demonstration comprising all the Div Arty, a stirring sight to behold! You should've been at the OP end mate ! | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 08:18 | |
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| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 11:13 | |
| [quote="brum"] - Shelldrake wrote:
The area looks like a rubbish tip, people are standing around with their hands in their pockets and (I think), I counted 17 guns. Absolute SHOWER ! Very scruffy ! Didn't like to mention it in case it was SOP for long range shooters. Bet there was a big bang if they let off a salvo together. | |
| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 12:02 | |
| - Shelldrake wrote:
- We put a big wooden pole (The name escapes me) in either side of the trail, lifted it up and manoeuvred it where required - we were young and fit in those days!
Thinking about the trouble you had to traverse the 5.5 with your wooden poles had me thinking in a quiet, rainy moment. Taking my refs info of the built in traverse for the barrel as 30 degrees left or right of centre, and seeing max.range is given as 18,000 yards with 80lb projectiles, I applied some of that TARA stuff which is of limited use to me now. 60 degrees X 18 (1,000 yds) X 17 yards per degree subtended = 18,360 yds So in theory a 5.5 could drop some hate in a triangular bit of ground 18.000 yards long with a base of 18,360 yards. That seems to limit your pole drill somewhat, but equally, if a layer was just one degree out when he traversed the thing, the shell could be 306 yards wide of target at max. range. | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 14:08 | |
| [quote="cartav", if a layer was just one degree out when he traversed the thing, the shell could be 306 yards wide of target at max. range.[/quote] And that, my dear cartav, would be a very serious offence, not to mention very unprofessional on the part of the Layer which could be why we still hear apocryphal stories about "Drop shorts"! | |
| | | Dee Z WOI
Number of posts : 171 Age : 79 Cap Badge : RA Places Served : Pembroke Dock, Lippstadt,Plymouth, Middle east, Singapore Registration date : 2011-07-15
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 15:20 | |
| Remembering radio procedures for fire orders back in 1964 Mike target,mike target, mike target we Americanized that became Fire mission Regiment Clansman Uploaded at ImageFra.me | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| | | | Dee Z WOI
Number of posts : 171 Age : 79 Cap Badge : RA Places Served : Pembroke Dock, Lippstadt,Plymouth, Middle east, Singapore Registration date : 2011-07-15
| | | | Dee Z WOI
Number of posts : 171 Age : 79 Cap Badge : RA Places Served : Pembroke Dock, Lippstadt,Plymouth, Middle east, Singapore Registration date : 2011-07-15
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 17:25 | |
| There is a military day at Weybourne camp tomorrow I will see what video I can take 5.5 Uploaded at ImageFra.me
Last edited by Dee Z on 31/5/2013, 17:28; edited 1 time in total | |
| | | Dee Z WOI
Number of posts : 171 Age : 79 Cap Badge : RA Places Served : Pembroke Dock, Lippstadt,Plymouth, Middle east, Singapore Registration date : 2011-07-15
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 31/5/2013, 17:26 | |
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