royal regt artillery

looking for any gunners that served in the 12th.l.a.a, regt ra,in celle and herford from 56-57

CARTAV,thanks mate for the info,i have found some of the old pals from other sites,i played f/ ball at Osnabruck a few times for the 12th,also cricket,if you played any sport you had it made,as I had at the 38th at rhyl,and the 12th all the besr ron (Geordie}

"38 at Rhyl", a 19 set jockey then ! I was there 58/59, 72 Bty.

  You'll have to put up with Shelldrake & Brum wrote:

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enthusing over their big firework (Honest John), but it's all good fun.... 
 

Haven't started yet on the Pack How, Light Gun, 5.5in, Abbot or M109!

BRUM,the best part of the 19 set was turning it off,did most of my time playing f/ball,for the regt on a Saturday,playing foe the 2nd team on a Tuesday,and for the troop on wed,went back there a few years ago houses are now built on the pitches,a refridging company had part of the camp,and the police force had the shooting range,but they were happy days there,do you remember the dance hall above the bus station,some good Saturday nights there.

I was back in Bodelwyddan a couple of years ago too. I couldn't figure out where the camp had been 'til I realised they'd moved the A55 over.
I think the dance hall was out of bounds to us. There was a dance in the gym in 31 Regt though.

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cartav wrote:

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Shelldrake

Haven't started yet on the Pack How, Light Gun, 5.5in, Abbot or M109!:[/quote]

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I'm impressed !  But as you've shown me yours, have a shufti at mine-------

3Mk.2F,   L60,   40/70,   25 Pdr ,  Thunderbird,  &    9 Pdr ML (!)  

And a brief association with a Russian A/T thing which was nicked by our lot from the Afrika Korps.  Not sure what it was, maybe a 45mm, but it certainly took a snooker ball & Thunderflash up the back end.  Very frightening.

And nearly one more, but Brigade claimed it as a gate guardian.  Seniors & Offs were out on a TEWT when their interest in maps & chinagraph was disturbed by a farmer. " 'As tha cum for t'gun ?" he asked.  " Er...... No..... What gun ?".   Turned out some military chaps had shoved a WW 1  18 pdr in one of his barns, that was way back in WW 2 when said gun was part of an exercise.  It was towed back to base, but as related , it ended up in Brigade HQ.[/quote]

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 Shelldrake


Haven't started yet on the Pack How, Light Gun, 5.5in, Abbot or M109!:[/quote]

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I'm impressed !  But as you've shown me yours, have a shufti at mine-------

3Mk.2F,   L60,   40/70,   25 Pdr ,  Thunderbird,  &    9 Pdr ML (!)  

And a brief association with a Russian A/T thing which was nicked by our lot from the Afrika Korps.  Not sure what it was, maybe a 45mm, but it certainly took a snooker ball & Thunderflash up the back end.  Very frightening.

And nearly one more, but Brigade claimed it as a gate guardian.  Seniors & Offs were out on a TEWT when their interest in maps & chinagraph was disturbed by a farmer. " 'As tha cum for t'gun ?" he asked.  " Er...... No..... What gun ?".   Turned out some military chaps had shoved a WW 1  18 pdr in one of his barns, that was way back in WW 2 when said gun was part of an exercise.  It was towed back to base, but as related , it ended up in Brigade HQ.[/quote][/quote]

cartav wrote:

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 Shelldrake


Haven't started yet on the Pack How, Light Gun, 5.5in, Abbot or M109!:

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I'm impressed !  But as you've shown me yours, have a shufti at mine-------

   9 Pdr ML (!)  

Now I know I'm going to regret this . . . a muzzle loader ?
Even FM Gordon ain't THAT old !

brum wrote:

 

   9 Pdr ML (!)  

Now I know I'm going to regret this . . . a muzzle loader ?
Even FM Gordon ain't THAT old !

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Well spotted Brum !   But first an apology for previous finger trouble in posting stuff in Army-style duplicate........

Now a history lesson.  After seeing off the Young Pretender & the Scottish Nationalists at Culloden,  the government reviewed the threat, thought it was  minimal & decided to save a pound or two by reducing spending on the armed forces. Consequently there was panic when the French king was topped by the riotous Terror mob in 1793 and France declared war against Britain & the Netherlands.   What to do ?  Beef up a depleted army by promoting the recruitment of local volunteer forces, an early TA, in fact..............  Sound familiar all this ?

In my neck of the woods, an artillery company of the Loyal Independent Volunteers was raised in 1794, they were armed with the two ML bronze cannon. Units were disbanded in 1802, then reactivated in the mid-1800s when there was further French inspired bother in Europe.  To reduce the affect of this  "stop-starting" the Volunteer Act of 1863 formalised and standardised the volunteer forces to such an extent that there were  8 local batteries in 1865.

Eventually, after years of neglect by the Council,  the two cannon found their way into the post WW2 artillery element of the local volunteer forces, and remained there until a TAVR amalgamation in 1961.
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Apart from early attention with Brasso & cotton waste,  my personal involvement  seems to have been limited to assisting with some stripping down to barrels, wheels & stout oak carriages and moving same for re-erection as centre pieces at Regt. Balls etc.   There's a previous bit about firing the things on that recent bit by Ciphers on the Canadian museum topic...............  I think !

This is the Hants & Isle of Wight cadets carrying out a 25lb Field Gun display on Southsea Common in front of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth to celebrate the Silver Jubilee in 1977.
We had the loan of the gun fro RSA Larkhill.
I'm the Detachment Commander and had the honor of presenting the team to Her Majesty on completion of the display.
I went on to join the REME in November of the same year.

Better photo

Len (Ciphers)

ciphers wrote:

Better photo

Len (Ciphers)

Thank you Len

As you can imagine, i have had this photo since 1977 and it was scanned in. Appreciate your help.

All the best

Nobby

ronnie french wrote:

CARTAV,thanks mate for the info,i have found some of the old pals from other sites,i played f/ ball at Osnabruck a few times for the 12th,also cricket,if you played any sport you had it made,as I had at the 38th at rhyl,and the 12th all the besr ron (Geordie}

Spent some abortive time seeking the "quote" button before I could come back, Geordie..
If you were on the football pitch at Quebec Bks in Osnabruck, we might have bumped into each other. Not that I was talented enough to chase a ball about, but 32 Bty's BHQ block was almost adjacent. My own sporting activities, of sorts, were limited to M/c trials &
shooting. And the odd bit of long distance fornication when the chance arose......

brum wrote:

"38 at Rhyl", a 19 set jockey then ! I was there 58/59, 72 Bty.

Where you not lucky? Our cook-house was closed for delousing & we had to eat with you lot, it was like being back with mother.I remember doing fatigues in our cook house and asking a greasy L/Jack, what to do about the maggots on the bacon? " scrape them off and then slice the bacon as thin as possible".
We had a guy called Ray Phillips who did 39 consecutive days CB, day started for him,0060 mount with the guard with full FSMO, normal duties until lunch time when he reported to the guard commander, normal duties and then mount with the new guard again FSMO, fatigues until 2300 when he was allowed to relax and prepare his kit for the next day.
Why not something similar in to days prisons?

during my training at Woolwich I joined my first troop and our week 1 training was at Crowborough and it looked like a WW2 camp for housing soldiers, if not then it could have been a POW camp  cold and damp and that was the wooden huts which had a round coal fire/cooker in the middle of the floor, the weather was not to good either and that was in march 1980, anyway when I got back Squadded to the second intake I again went away for our week one training which this time was Hythe which was more modern and warm and a big difference to the one I encountered in my first troop, we could see the sea from the camp and the white cliffs, every morning at 5.30 we all had to get into our pt kit and run down to the beach and once there we was made to totally strip off and run into the sea and we had to emerge completely wet and whoever didn't have wet hair was made to do it again and after 3 warnings your hair was still dry the instructors made sure your hair got wet as they threw you in and you couldn't try to run away from them as your couldn't outrun them and even if you managed to outrun them they would have at the barracks, all the buildings was lovely and warm dinning room and NAFFI was great, we did long short runs every day and boxing and on the last day we would have a race on a 3 mile course just for fun but what we didn't know until after we completed it we was actually being timed and we had to do it a certain time but we all passed, some lads was complaining about the early morning swims and on our ice breaker I spoke to the lads about the experience I had in my first troop and the 1st week training camp and I told them all about the differences between the two camps and by the end they all stopped the moaning and found themselves lucky in which I was actually praised by the instructors and our troop commander was told about it on our return to Woolwich, all week we had lovely sunny weather and I also told the lads that they were lucky as at Crowborough it rained all week and was quite windy and cold, while we was waiting for the buses to turn up to take us back one of the PTI's decided he would play a trick on me and he got some of the other instructors to watch, well I had a cup of tea in my right hand and he shouted Parker whats the time so that everyone would hear him and watch my reaction, so I put the cup in my left hand and told him the time and his answer and reaction was bastard and he laughed about it so did all the instructors, as he was expecting me to just turn my right hand so that I would spill all of my tea and he said theres no tricking you everyone laughed and the PTI said ill get ya with a laugh but he shook me by the hand for being a sport, week 1 was very easy as they were just easing us in but we got back to Woolwich on the Friday afternoon and we was given the rest of the day off as well as the weekend but they warned us that as from 4am Monday things would be getting tougher as they had to break us down to rebuild us better, stronger, faster, and more knowledgeable

12 Regt in many guises! Wondered about the London Fire Brigade Commander on TV last night wearing what looked like GSM 1962 ribbon - so looked him up online:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Roe

Andy Roe
In 1997, Roe was commissioned from the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst and joined the 12th Regiment Royal Artillery as a second lieutenant. [Dempsey Barracks, Schloss Neuhaus: 12 REGT RA 1995-Dec 2007 ]
During his time as an officer, he served as a troop commander and a battery captain and served two tours in Northern Ireland. During his time in Northern Ireland, he was wounded when a pipe bomb was thrown at him, which also severely injured an RUC officer stood next to Roe. The officer died after spending four week on a life support machine.
As a captain, he transferred his commission to the Army reserve in April 2000.

In 2002, Roe joined the London Fire Brigade as a firefighter and in January 2017 was appointed as Assistant Commissioner.

During the Grenfell Tower fire, Roe was appointed incident commander where he revoked the controversial 'stay put' advice to the residents. As the first commissioner appointed since the fire, Roe issued a plea to the residents of London's 7000 high rise blocks to set aside any 'post-Grenfell doubts continue to follow firefighters’ advice in the event of a blaze.'

On 28 January 2020, Roe became the first LFB commissioner to sign the Armed Forces Covenant with the British Armed Forces.

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