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 Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back)

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Pborn4
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Number of posts : 706
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back)   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime18/7/2018, 19:17

Named for Field Marshal Sir Alan Brooke, the Barracks had been known locally as Infanterie Kaserne and lay at the edge of Paderborn town on Elsenerstrasse.

The buildings in the Barracks were/are under Denkmalschuutz - Architectural interest protection - so the British users could repair but not alter the exterior  form of the blocks.

Before the remodelling: https://www.nw.de/lokal/kreis_paderborn/paderborn/22955551_Baeume-im-Alanbrooke-Quartier-sollen-dank-Planaenderung-erhalten-bleiben.html (reports that two mature trees are to be retained (a chestnut and a Lime (Linden) tree, and so site plans for an underground car park have been altered)

Elsewhere there are records of key users over the years until recent hand-back of the camp (not long after a major refurb of the kitchens) to the German authorities.  Such users included 26 Engr Regt~4 Div Engrs, 15/19 H,  33 Armd Bde & Paderborn GAR; Gar Courts Martial Centre, home to 41 AEC since 1950s, RRF and 2 and/or  5 LI.

STOP PRESS re-developers found a 250 kg (500 pounder) RAF WW2 bomb under the Sportsplatz - this was defused and removed by the Kampfmittelraumdienst Detmold on 17 Jul 2018.


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Number of posts : 1027
Age : 75
Localisation : near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date : 2010-02-14

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PostSubject: Re: Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back)   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime21/7/2018, 13:42

Early days of British Troops in Alanbrooke Barracks formerly Infanterie Kaserne Paderborn

29 May 45 – 16 Battery of 7th Field Regiment RA and 3 Counter Mortar Battery RA command HQRA 3rd Infantry Division

16 Aug 45 – relieved by 314 Battery of 79th (Lowland) Field Regiment RA command 52nd Divisional Artillery Brigade

9 Nov 46 to 18 Apr 46 – various 52nd Divisional Artillery Brigade units then relieved by 147th (West Riding) Infantry Brigade of 49th (West Riding) Infantry Division with responsibility for Landkreis Paderborn

21 Oct 46 – relieved by 131st Lorried Infantry Brigade of 7th Armoured Division from 1 Jan 47 redesignated 31st Infantry Brigade from 15 Mar 47 31st Lorried Infantry Brigade

28 Jul 47 – relieved by British Army of the Rhine Training Centre (under construction)

20 Sep 48 – relieved by 7th Armoured Brigade command Hannover District (under construction)

https://britisharmyingermany.com


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Pborn4
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Number of posts : 706
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Re: Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back)   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime28/7/2018, 22:50

1 x 500pounder (250 kg) for disposal

Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) A_thar10

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Number of posts : 15
Cap Badge : RAC
Places Served : Paderborn, Fallingbostel, Bovington
Registration date : 2019-07-23

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PostSubject: Open day 21.07.19   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime23/7/2019, 08:56

Hi all,
Allenbrooke was opened for the final time before demolition (21.07.19). Around 11000 people visited, which allowed them to see inside the guardroom and one of the accommodation blocks. The site is to be turned into a housing estate with around 800 units. 240 of which will be social housing. If you seach for radio hochstift, they have lots of pictures online.
I have added a couple of my poor pics!Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Img_2013
Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Img_2014
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Number of posts : 706
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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Number of posts : 706
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Alabrooke Bks - Paderborner Conversion Mar 2020   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime22/4/2020, 00:13

Drone Eye View  - Alanbrooke dusty remains

Drone Eye View  - Alanbrooke dusty remains March 2020

https://www.paderborner-konversion.de/sites/default/files/mediathek/Alanbrooke_T3.mp4

https://www.paderborner-konversion.de/sites/default/files/mediathek/Alanbrooke_T2.mp4  No underground stores/tunnels

https://www.paderborner-konversion.de/sites/default/files/mediathek/Alanbrooke_T1.mp4

These links no longer function see new youtiube references below!

and Building 32 (former Gar HQ and former Courts-Martial Centre and SLO Office)  to be demolished from 20 Apr 2020
and Erzbergerstr reduced to single file while the work is conducted (10 Geman Days)


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alan8376
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Number of posts : 778
Age : 76
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back)   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime22/4/2020, 12:24

Thanks Paddy,

Great Videos.

Any other camps surviving?

Alan
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Number of posts : 706
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Re: Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back)   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime22/4/2020, 14:07

Only Paderborn Stadt have Alanbrooke featuring on video thus far - there are around 15 buildings that were under Denkmalschutz (Architectural Protection Orders which had been respected by the British over a number of years). The brand new soldiers' Cookhouse wasn't and has gone!   Interestingly, in Paderborn, the Projects for recycling the Barracks have retained the British names and Stadt Paderborn are keen to redevelop Dempsey in Schloss Neuhaus, and Barker out on Driburgerstrasse - where the University also have  a 20 million € project of their own in planning.  The Brits have retained Normandy and Athlone Bks in Sennelager for their future training needs and the Training Area and Ranges, and relevant storage aeas, too.

and Block 32 Alanbrooke - going down and dusty and flattened by close of play Fri 25 Apr:
Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Bl_32_10


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Number of posts : 706
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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Number of posts : 778
Age : 76
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back)   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime11/5/2021, 09:19

So sad to see them disappearing around BAOR.  

I think Tofrek Bks, at Hildesheim remains mainly intact.

Alan

The old Reme Workshop took a phase of being an Erotic Shop.
Then Hildesheim Stadt Theatre took it over whilst the main theatre was revamped. I believe the workshop has taken on a cultural use now.
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My old block looking smart now.
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Number of posts : 67
Age : 69
Localisation : Hampshire
Cap Badge : 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars
Places Served : NI, Tidworth, UNFICYP, BAOR, Worthy Down
Registration date : 2007-12-07

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Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) 29#
I'm having trouble getting the right pic into a post. Quote gives me something completely different.

If this is the pic of two blokes with the 500lb bomb, and I've interpreted the pic correctly, you can see my bedroom between 1977 and 1979 behind the head of the guy standing. Third pair of windows, left hand window.

Early 79, Op Humane had upgraded the adjacent block (northeast adjacent to the cobbled streets outside) and we moved into much nicer rooms.
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Pborn4
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Number of posts : 706
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Alanbrooke Quartier Paderborn   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime24/12/2022, 21:49

Using what3words to indicate where the new condominiums are to be sited at the
rear area of the camp: (Helene-Lange-Strasse)
https://what3words.com/dozed.planting.shovels    (apt!)

https://www.neubaukompass.com/property/alanbrooke-quartier-paderborn/

they are taking offers to purchase - look luxurious!

The old early 1900 barrack blocks retained under an architectural protection order
are ranged along Alan Brooke Weg  (https://what3words.com/monument.official.sunroof)
AND
the old Gate Guard Room and HQ Offices are at
https://what3words.com/shoppers.canyon.tablets  new called Nelson Mandela Platz
(a favourite of Fools and Horses Fans?)

and the former NAAFI
https://what3words.com/wallet.button.koala
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Number of posts : 706
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Before the teardown started   Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn (Before & now Handed back) Icon_minitime21/1/2023, 00:04

Alanbrooke Bks before the wrecking ball -

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seemed pleasant!

a few current views of Alanbrooke via youtube:

alanbrooke Bks 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jHqEB4LJKY&t=49s

alanbrooke bks 2020 during tear down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgUdYwomytQ

A camp once stood here : Alanbrooke Barracks Paderborn 2022.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktYHerqU1A

Paderborn in German video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQ779ilv3w
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