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Webmaster Phil WOII
Number of posts : 92 Age : 44 Localisation : Fallingbostel Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Fallingbostel, Bielefeld Registration date : 2007-03-08
| Subject: Stirling House 11/8/2008, 10:55 | |
| Can anyone add to Stirling House? | |
| | | Oliver (Trince) SSgt/CSgt
Number of posts : 44 Age : 56 Localisation : 52°38'50.20''N 9°51'40.52''E, Germany Cap Badge : MSO BAOR Places Served : MSO Hildesheim, MSO Bracht Registration date : 2008-06-17
| Subject: Re: Stirling House 10/1/2011, 16:26 | |
| A Barracks Changes Hands
14. March 50 years ago was a solemn day and Hans Herzberg has him in memories. German and British soldiers were in the barracks at the Hans-Böckler-Allee, Herzberg was performed the national anthem "and then the gates were opened, hundreds Hanover flocked in excited".
Hans Herzberg, now 91 years old, was then the head of the army music corps I. That orchestra so that also played on Friday in the Kurt-Schumacher-Barracks - to 50-year anniversary one for Hanover and the armed forces highly symbolic events. On that March day of 1958 gave the British Brigadier General Major Siewat Lipscome the German official after the former commander of the "Stirling House" known barracks building at Hans-Böckler-Allee. That was one part little more than a lush staged formality. On the other hand, reflected in the fact, however, the gradual reconquest of the autonomy of German and a good relationship with the British, who had become by the occupying forces to allies.
After the war, the British town police captain had taken his seat at City Hall. The military administration for the district and the province, however, were first in the Geha office building came in on Podbielskistraße before the former into the General Command moved on Misburger dam, now the Hans-Böckler-Allee. If the first Prime Minister of Lower Saxony, Hinrich Wilhelm Kopf, the British asked for something, or if someone ordered to report, then they had to appear there, in the originally built for army building. The departure of the British marked the end of this phase thus externally. During the ceremony on Friday reminded the British Brigadier Robert Weighill and the German Colonel Dirk jaws on the day 50 years ago. Today in the Kurt-Schumacher-barracks of the staff of the Division response forces and the military administration north with about 1,400 soldiers and staff are housed. Hans Herzberg however, felt in the time of delivery of the 'Stirling key "back:" That was more than a sober management process. "
(Translated with google.de) | |
| | | JPW Let Gen
Number of posts : 1119 Age : 83 Localisation : Berkshire Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf Registration date : 2008-11-09
| Subject: Re: Stirling House 11/1/2011, 11:07 | |
| Oliver
Thank you for the translation, very useful
Steve will doubtless confirm in due course but I believe Stirling House was the site of the military HQ Hannover District and the Control Commission Germany equivalent, responsible for civil matters in the embryo Lower Saxony Province. In later years it was briefly HQ 4 Division before it moved to Herford | |
| | | Norman SSgt/CSgt
Number of posts : 57 Age : 88 Localisation : East Yorkshire Cap Badge : RASC/RCT Places Served : Farnborough, Aldershot, Sennelager, Hildesheim, Hannover. Registration date : 2009-10-19
| Subject: Re: Stirling House 24/1/2011, 20:37 | |
| JPW, I was at Stirling House between 1955 and 1957.
If you go to the Barracks section and bring up Stirling House there is much more information that I entered some time ago.
Noch ein bier,
Norman.
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| | | Norman SSgt/CSgt
Number of posts : 57 Age : 88 Localisation : East Yorkshire Cap Badge : RASC/RCT Places Served : Farnborough, Aldershot, Sennelager, Hildesheim, Hannover. Registration date : 2009-10-19
| Subject: Re: Stirling House 26/1/2011, 14:50 | |
| JPW, Correction, I have got it wrong. You have to go to Locations, click on Hannover and then on Stirling House. Senior moment, if I only have one a day I am not to worried!!
Noch ein bier,
Norman. | |
| | | Tone587 Cpl
Number of posts : 16 Age : 86 Cap Badge : S.A.C Places Served : Hannover..Hamburg Registration date : 2013-08-03
| Subject: Re: Stirling House 6/12/2013, 19:31 | |
| 86 Movement Unit RAF who manned the RTO on Hannover Station were billeted in Stirling House . I was based here for six weeks in the Summer of 1957. I remember the solidity of the huge barrack blocks, and the SS emblems carved in stone over some entrances. | |
| | | Tone587 Cpl
Number of posts : 16 Age : 86 Cap Badge : S.A.C Places Served : Hannover..Hamburg Registration date : 2013-08-03
| Subject: Re: Stirling House 6/12/2013, 19:37 | |
| I meant to comment also on how bad the Google translations ( left to a computer) are. Gobble de gook.....comes to mind!! | |
| | | Norman SSgt/CSgt
Number of posts : 57 Age : 88 Localisation : East Yorkshire Cap Badge : RASC/RCT Places Served : Farnborough, Aldershot, Sennelager, Hildesheim, Hannover. Registration date : 2009-10-19
| Subject: Re: Stirling House 6/12/2013, 20:59 | |
| Tone587, I can recall the RAF Movements unit at Stirling House as a couple of them, whose names I cannot remember after all these years, played in the the HQ football side with me. I must just have missed meeting you as I was posted back to the UK in early June of 1957. Hannover was a great posting and the District HQ was a dream posting.
Did you ever walk the mile or so down the road to the village of Kleefeld? Turn right out of Stirling House on to the Hans Bockler Allee. Our local was the White Swan pub in the village and the NAAFI shop was just a little bit further on.
Happy days indeed!!
Noch ein bier,
Norman. | |
| | | Tone587 Cpl
Number of posts : 16 Age : 86 Cap Badge : S.A.C Places Served : Hannover..Hamburg Registration date : 2013-08-03
| Subject: Re: Stirling House 6/12/2013, 22:11 | |
| Norman Neither Kleefeld nor White Swan checked out.......we were so busy with the military trains!!!!! Do remember kick a rounds on the football pitch next to the car park within the base......plus visiting the Army dentist. | |
| | | steve LE Maj
Number of posts : 1027 Age : 75 Localisation : near Cuxhaven Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln Registration date : 2010-02-14
| Subject: Re: Stirling House 3/12/2017, 14:22 | |
| Thanks to the notes here http://www.baor-locations.org/StirlingHouse.aspx.htmlCan confirm HQ 8th Armoured Brigade command 30th Corps District moved in on 31 Jul 45, there were in a school to the west from 21 May 45, both locations are on Hans Böckler Alle, Hannover-Kleefeld, this has come to light as have now received a copy of the war diaries from Kew for the 8th Armoured Brigade | |
| | | niemandsland Private
Number of posts : 1 Age : 55 Localisation : Hannover Registration date : 2018-02-06
| Subject: Stirling House 6/2/2018, 02:48 | |
| A few corrections:- the 2WW ended in Hannover on 10 Apr 45 ( not on 9 Apr 45 ) the attack started at 05:00 O'Clock. On early morning there was dense fog. - the 84th. US Inf. Div. occupied Hannover ( not the 4th. ) ( url: history[dot]army[dot]mil[/]documents[/]ETO-OB[/]84ID-ETO[dot]htm ) - 1845-1951: the street was called: Misburger Damm ( 1951 the street was renamed to "Hans-Boeckler-Allee" ) -- source: Hanke, Christian: Book "Hannovers Strassennamen erzaehlen Geschichte", Weiland, 2006. - Guido Janthor wrote:
- Wehrkeiskommando XI, Generalkommando Wehrkreis XI
Hannover, (ehem. "Misburger Damm") Hans-Böckler-Allee Erbaut 1936
- Guido Janthor wrote:
- -- Kurt-Schumacher-Kaserne
Hannover, (ehem. "Misburger Damm") Hans-Böckler-Allee
Tabellarische Geschichte: 1936: wurde die Kaserne erbaut; ~1937: Wehrkreiskommando XI -> Generalkommando Wehrkreis XI 10.04.1945 - ~20.04.1945 US Armee
1956-2001: Wehrbereichskommando II 1994-heute: Stab der 1. Panzerdivision; 2001: Auflösung des Wehrbereichskommandos II; 2007-heute: [see: url: wikipedia -> ] Landeskommando Niedersachsen;
-- source: see url: mast-forum[dot]de -> Militaerische Stuetzpunkte - Kommandos - Befehlsbunker in Hannover (use google or bing) | |
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