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Subject: Re: CAOF 1945 7/12/2014, 18:07
A small add on for B/Gen. Leslie. I had him as Base Commander (Col.) in Shilo in 63/64. He was a bit of a martinet, would dawn coveralls to crawl under vehicles for the Base Commanders Parade. Then last time I saw him, was in Ottawa during the FLQ Crisis at N.D.H.Q. where our Sigs Sqn was doing security. He was over from Cyprus on business. Not often one gets to point his F.N. at a B/Gen. and demand I.D. (he was in civilian dress). The story goes he changed his name to Leslie (his maternal grandmother) for the inheritance. His brother ended up in Mexico involved in some shady medical business. General McNaughton was an out standing Gunner, who came up with some advanced thinking in the use of Artillery in WW 1 and gun Location (If I remember properly). Unfortunately in WW 2 then General Montgomery didn't see eye to eye with him, so he was pushed out from Commanding the Cdn. Army in the U.K. On returning to Canada he ended up in politics and was Minister of Defence.
I stand to be corrected if my memory is at fault.
JPW Let Gen
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Subject: Re: CAOF 1945 10/12/2014, 09:16
Hardrations
I believe you are correct though other sources say Gen McNaughton lost is job when he was unfairly blamed for the Dieppe Disaster. Incompetence by the Planners not lack of Bravery by the Canadians involved was the real cause. On return to Canada he was then involved in an other row over Conscription and the employment of Canadian servicemen/women overseas which cost him the chance obeing the first Canadian born Governor General
Hardrations Let Gen
Number of posts : 1062 Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook) Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places Registration date : 2007-12-16
Subject: Re: CAOF 1945 10/12/2014, 16:41
I think it started before Dieppe. There was a big exercise prior to Dieppe run by Monty with the Canadian Army and it was well fouled up. So Monty had his steely eye on the General then. Also we here in Canada blame Mountbatten for dumping us in Dieppe.
JPW Let Gen
Number of posts : 1119 Age : 81 Localisation : Berkshire Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf Registration date : 2008-11-09
Subject: Re: CAOF 1945 11/12/2014, 09:54
Hardrations
Other source claim that Admiral Lord Louis Mountbatten, another individual who flourished under Churchill's patronage, as Head of the Dieppe Planning Team was far more responsible.
Pborn4 Brig
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Subject: Re: CAOF 1945 16/8/2017, 02:19
War Diary 3 Cdn Inf Div CAFO Starts at Amersfoot and moves to BAD Zwischenhahn Jul 45
Number of posts : 504 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Re: CAOF 1945 16/3/2018, 02:11
CAOF Map coverage 1:100,000 Grid: Nord de Guerre (should connect with War Diaries)
Number of posts : 504 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Number of posts : 504 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
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Pborn4, thanks for the link I have been able to update the Black Watch entry, the DIV HQ location statement had a different GR for VE day! BTW (CAOF) was not used until 15 Jun 46, when 3rd Canadian Infantry Division (CAOF) was formed to replace 2nd Canadian Infantry Division in Germany; CAOF was added then to distinguish it from the existing 3rd Canadian Infantry Division in Holland.
Unit war diaries are always welcome, as my research is normally based on higher formation documentation from Kew, purchased through a UK based Research Company.
Malte Private
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Subject: Re: CAOF 1945 23/8/2021, 20:52
steve wrote:
Pborn4 wrote:
Unit war diaries are always welcome, as my research is normally based on higher formation documentation from Kew, purchased through a UK based Research Company.
I found this forum today when searching information about a book published April, 1946, in Bad Zwischenahn "for personnel of Headquarters, 3 Canadian Infantry Division, CAOF". It is not a war diary at all but a "pictorial history of Bad Zwischenahn" or, as I would call it, a souvenir guide. According to family tradition, my grandfather (who served as Luftwaffe radio operator (Bordfunker) and later as translator for Canadian officers) received a copy as a souvenir.
@Komet (Carsten): do/did you live near Rostrup airfield and finish school in 1989?
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