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+26Nutstrangler "john boy" Norman BobG steve Dolmetscher Shelldrake Mikey Themaadone Scribe64 locating Stephen Lock jim handler 69 brum brrowe JPW oldtimer recce83 Teabag Mike_2817 wrinkles Hardrations steve jones Rocky alan8376 30 posters | |
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Nutstrangler Sgt
Number of posts : 25 Age : 80 Localisation : Totton, Hants Cap Badge : R.E.M.E. Places Served : Arborfield, Malaya, Singapore, Brunei , Kuching, Bulford, Bunde, Bordon, Dhekelia, Iserlohn, Lemgo,Hameln, Zimbabwe. Registration date : 2011-01-26
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 9/2/2011, 19:46 | |
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| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| | | | jerry WOI
Number of posts : 186 Age : 83 Localisation : Abergele Cap Badge : RASC/RCT Places Served : Dortmund/Hameln/ Malaya FARELF Marchwood Aldershot Yeovil Registration date : 2008-10-04
| | | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 9/2/2011, 20:10 | |
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| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 9/2/2011, 20:28 | |
| I don't think that it is an Official Abbreviation". | |
| | | Hardrations Let Gen
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook) Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 9/2/2011, 21:40 | |
| I think it means F- For F-Friendly S- Service. As in For Friendly Service see the RSM... Tee Hee | |
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| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 9/2/2011, 23:15 | |
| Obviously not much happening today. |
| | | Hardrations Let Gen
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook) Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 12/2/2011, 02:22 | |
| BLUE BIRD OF HAPPINESS, MY ASS! It's Friggin' Freezing. There's snow up my ass, all the food's covered with 3 feet of this white shit, and you want ME to sing? What?? Anne Murray's "Snowbird"? Piss Off!! Next year, I'm flyin' to Jamaica, and smoke dope!! | |
| | | ciphers Maj Gen
Number of posts : 978 Age : 91 Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton) Registration date : 2008-06-30
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 12/2/2011, 06:28 | |
| And that's why I live in Beautifooool British Columbia ..
Len (Ciphers) | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 12/2/2011, 08:12 | |
| Len, about 5 years ago we went to Canada for our 40th anniversary, did all the usual touristy stuff round Jasper, Banff etc and finished up visiting ex Army friends of ours who live in Kelowna, as you say BC is a beautiful State and we will definitely go back sometime. | |
| | | ciphers Maj Gen
Number of posts : 978 Age : 91 Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton) Registration date : 2008-06-30
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 12/2/2011, 17:13 | |
| It's not a State, its a bloody Province ... I dunno, bloody Planks .
Len (Ciphers) | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| | | | Hardrations Let Gen
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook) Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places Registration date : 2007-12-16
| | | | "john boy" Maj Gen
Number of posts : 939 Age : 62 Localisation : shrewsbury Cap Badge : acc Places Served : aldershot/albermarle bks ouston-father LI- gib- berlin NI- lemgo- colchester- shrewsbury-tidworth left82 Registration date : 2010-12-30
| | | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 12/2/2011, 19:50 | |
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| | | Teabag Maj Gen
Number of posts : 960 Age : 74 Localisation : Merseyside Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold Registration date : 2008-10-30
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 12/2/2011, 20:49 | |
| I remember the boys going on an outing to Amsterdam and one of them asked a "lady" if she was Dutch? Everything got rather frosty after that until someone realised she thought he said Deutsch. Explanations all around and it was smiles and business as usual. | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 12/2/2011, 21:36 | |
| - ciphers wrote:
- It's not a State, its a bloody Province ... I dunno, bloody Planks .
Len (Ciphers) I don't think I'd heard that expression until '72, in Hohne, when some Gunners referred to themselves as "Plankies". What I do remember though, was that any other cap badge that called them that name suffered grievous facial trauma. | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 12/2/2011, 21:40 | |
| [quote=""john boy""] - Hardrations wrote:
BLUE BIRD OF HAPPINESS, MY ASS!
It's Friggin' Freezing. There's snow up my ass, all the food's covered with
3 feet of this white shit, and you want ME to sing?
What?? Anne Murray's "Snowbird"? Piss Off!!
Next year, I'm flyin' to Jamaica, and smoke dope!!
love it Brilliant ! The bird actually LOOKS pissed off ! | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| | | | ciphers Maj Gen
Number of posts : 978 Age : 91 Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton) Registration date : 2008-06-30
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 13/2/2011, 16:45 | |
| In that case I will 'up stick' and move to Winterpeg .. who in their right mind would live at Portage and Main .... Hard Rations can explain that
Len (Ciphers) | |
| | | Hardrations Let Gen
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook) Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 13/2/2011, 17:24 | |
| Funny you should mention that. I once had my truck break down at Portage and Main. The saving grace for that, was that year and day the Canadian Juniors were playing for gold (hockey) so traffic was sparse. For those who wonder what Ciphers is getting at, Portage and Main intersection is known as the windiest spot in Canada (not counting parliament). Temperatures can be bitter. Also there is a WW 1 memorial standing in front of the Bank of Montreal on the intersection. This memorial is the figure representing a Canadian Officer in memory of employees of the Bank of Montreal. The model for the officer is supposedly a Canadian Officer ( B of M employee)who was awarded the M.C. and survived. The sculptor was an American who dressed the statue in an American Officers uniform. Also any great sporting event or just a good excuse to party, Portage and Main will be blocked off and used to celebrate what ever the excuse. Under neath this intersection is a concourse with shops and resturants. Now what this has to do with Winter in Germany I don't know. | |
| | | Hardrations Let Gen
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook) Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 13/2/2011, 17:40 | |
| I will now gently take us back to a German Winter.
In Dec. 1966 I was on my Junior N.C.O.'s course in Werl. We were sent out on a escape and evasion course. Of course this meant you dragged your large pack and small pack (remember those items) dressed in combats and combat boots. Lots of snow that year and no rubber boots. So we were broken down into small groups of 4 or 6 with an instructor. We were required to carry the instructors rations ( we had none) which for some weird reason included a pot of honey and a spice cake. I guess this was to stress us a bit more. Well it was just so much fun trouncing through bush, forest and deep snow. Hungry and thirsty with cold wet feet. On the second day it was decided that since I could stumble through the German language that I should be sent on a begging mission for water with the instructors permission. So I approached this lone house by a canal and explained to the lady of the house what we were up to and could I get our canteens filled. As I was talking to her, I noticed a large round loaf of fresh bread on the kitchen table. Yup, you're right, I came back with a loaf of bread and full canteens of water. No I didn't pinch it, I asked in my best groveling manner if she could part with it. With beautiful smile and hearty chuckle she kindly gave it to our cause. On returning with it, I was seen as a hero. This is when I learned that good German bread and water can fill an empty stomach. Yes we shared with the instructor and later pinched his honey and cake for our selves. It only lasted 3 days but it was an education for us in an unusual form of winter survival. | |
| | | gingerjim Col
Number of posts : 487 Cap Badge : raoc Places Served : blackdown brackley , belgium . viersen Registration date : 2011-03-21
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 11/4/2011, 20:16 | |
| i say thank god for the old battledress and hugh greatcoat , they made the winters in the 50sjust about liveable, ginger | |
| | | jimsigs1 Let Gen
Number of posts : 1298 Age : 90 Localisation : West of England Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972 Registration date : 2010-02-22
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 11/4/2011, 23:10 | |
| Len,
I take it you were a cipher type. I remember in 1952 in Herford we had a load of cipher Cpls. At the time it seemed that it might be a quick way of promotion as cipher then started at Cpl. But we ex-Harrogate boys relented and decided to go the long route via OWL and eventually the RD Roster for QM.
Jimsigs1 | |
| | | Stephen Lock Maj Gen
Number of posts : 937 Age : 71 Localisation : Calgary Cap Badge : Pads Brat Places Served : Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter Registration date : 2007-12-28
| Subject: Re: Serving through the German Winter 12/4/2011, 18:17 | |
| - Hardrations wrote:
- Funny you should mention that. I once had my truck break down at Portage and Main. The saving grace for that, was that year and day the Canadian Juniors were playing for gold (hockey) so traffic was sparse. For those who wonder what Ciphers is getting at, Portage and Main intersection is known as the windiest spot in Canada (not counting parliament). Temperatures can be bitter. Also there is a WW 1 memorial standing in front of the Bank of Montreal on the intersection. This memorial is the figure representing a Canadian Officer in memory of employees of the Bank of Montreal. The model for the officer is supposedly a Canadian Officer ( B of M employee)who was awarded the M.C. and survived. The sculptor was an American who dressed the statue in an American Officers uniform. Also any great sporting event or just a good excuse to party, Portage and Main will be blocked off and used to celebrate what ever the excuse. Under neath this intersection is a concourse with shops and resturants.
Now what this has to do with Winter in Germany I don't know.
The statue of the WWI Canadian officer is great but as I looked at it "something" didn't seem quite right about it, but then I am not at all familiar with the Canadian uniforms, let alone Canadian officer uniforms, of that era. However, upon reading further and seeing the American sculptor (what?? No Canadian ones available? Hell, even British would have sufficed!!! LOL) had sculpted him in an AMERICAN uniform....sputter, gaak, gurgle!!!...WHAT???!!??? Outrageous. And I'm not just being funny (or trying), I'm serious. Currently here in Calgary we are in one helluva flap over some ugly "designer" bridge our City Council approved ($24 million!), designed by some Spanish dude, blah blah blah.....the pieces are being made in Spain (and the workmanship is shoddy apparently so now the current controversy is over who will pay for the cost over runs for having to redo the rivets and joins). I can, then, well imagine the uproar upon the unveiling of the Winnipeg statue only for it to be an AMERICAN. And in front of the venerable Canadian institution of the Bank of Montreal, no less!!! Sacrilege. I'm surprised it was accepted. But then, Canadians are far too polite to want to appear...gasp!....ungrateful!!!! | |
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