Number of posts : 11 Age : 88 Localisation : Benfleet Essex Cap Badge : RASC Places Served : Kettwig Germany Registration date : 2009-11-19
Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 5/1/2010, 15:23
Hi Paul, I have a letter in my hand i wrote dated 12-2-1955, 115coy RASC, (MT) BFPO 27 Hook of Holland.
Oh by the way i was the postman, My job was to collect the mail off the coloured trains and add our mail then put them on the ship for UK and vice versa. Any help, Tom
Paul Maj Gen
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 5/1/2010, 15:50
TomM wrote:
115coy RASC Hook of Holland 1954 was BFPO27 Tom.
It could be, Tom, it could be.
The BAOR and BFPO numbers are on a page of their own here:-
It is thought that the BFPO system did not come into effect until 1957, so there could be a difference there. There is reference to 115 Company being in the Hook from 1954, but we have no other details at present. Do you have any, by chance?
Paul.
TomM Cpl
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 5/1/2010, 16:20
hi Paul, BFPO was up and running in 1954/55 when i was at the Hook, But I'm sorry I've no other details, I left the army in 1956 and my home camp in Kettwig changed it's post number but for the life of me i can not remember sorry! Tom.
burgess720 WOI
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 10/2/2011, 02:47
Hi all,
Each BFPO had at least one post office manned by Royal Enginners These units used "Field Post Office" circular date stamps, with a number at the bottom which was not the BFPO number Anyone have list of the field post offices and numbers? This list would have included field post offices throughout the world, and may have even started in WW1?
Cheers Tony
Dave Gill SSgt/CSgt
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 10/2/2011, 23:28
griff029 wrote:
Lemgo was 41 with Detmold (I think)
From what I remember youre correct
Detmold was 41,
Omagh 801
Munster 17
Minden, kingsley barracks I think was 39??? BUT NOT SURE.
Shelldrake FM
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 11/2/2011, 19:35
Dave, I know that the BFPO No for Bielefeld was 39 - did it extend to Minden or was that 29, not sure?
Dave Gill SSgt/CSgt
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 11/2/2011, 20:38
Shelldrake wrote:
Dave, I know that the BFPO No for Bielefeld was 39 - did it extend to Minden or was that 29, not sure?
I have tried to remember but I can't be sure - I defo remember Detmold and Omagh, which was Lisburn 801. But Minden... must be getting old.....
mrshole Private
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 11/2/2011, 22:54
British Forces Post Office
In the immediate post war era facilities for both official and private mail to and from the UK as well as internally within BAOR were the responsibility of the Royal Engineers Postal Services organisation. Within the British Zone the equivalent of the modern Post Code system was introduced with BAOR numbers being allocated to every major Garrison or RAF Station. Mail for the subordinate or outlying units was redistributed from these nodal points. JPW BAOR 1 - Bad Oeynhausen/HQ BAOR
AACHEN, BAD SALZUFLEN, BRITISH TROOPS BELGIUM, BUNDE, GOTTINGEN, HAMM, HILDEN, HUSUM, ITZEHOE, MUNSTERLAGER, SOLTAU, WOLFENBUTTEL, WUPPERTAL
In 1957 the current world wide system of BFPO numbers was first introduced to British Forces based in Germany. This necessitated some changes to the previous BAOR numbers to both avoid duplication and reflect the major reorganisations being implemented throughout the former British Zone of Germany. JPW
(1) The reason for this was some silly idea of security when 47 Fd Regt RA moved into Mansergh Bks. The idea was that the BFPO number and the unit shouldn't have the same number, despite the fact that the address would have both the BFPO number and the unit title on the envelope.
1) The sequence BAOR 7, BAOR 17, BAOR 27 and BAOR 37 were never used to avoid confusion surrounding the handwritten English and German style figures 1 and 7.
2) Bad Eilsen/ HQ RAF (G) originally BAOR 1? Allocated separate Post Code in 19?? due to volume of mail.
3) HQ BAOR/HQ RAF (G) moved from Bad Oeynhausen/Bad Eilsen to Rheindahlen in 1954 and were reallocated to BAOR 40.
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 16/6/2012, 17:00
Many thanks and welcome Cynic very informative...BAOR history must be recorded...
Shelldrake FM
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 16/6/2012, 19:53
Lippstadt was BFPO 16 when I arrived there in '64.
brum FM
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 16/6/2012, 20:50
Shelldrake wrote:
Lippstadt was BFPO 16 when I arrived there in '64.
So everything was fine 'till you turned up, you bugger !
JPW Let Gen
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 16/6/2012, 21:43
Cynic
Welcome, what a magnificent contribution
You don't by chance have the details of the system in use between 1947 and 1952 involving BAOR rather than BFPO numbers?
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 16/6/2012, 23:21
Third post down on page three i think.JPW
Shelldrake FM
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 17/6/2012, 05:34
brum wrote:
Shelldrake wrote:
Lippstadt was BFPO 16 when I arrived there in '64.
So everything was fine 'till you turned up, you bugger !
steve LE Maj
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Isolated Detachments BFPO 105 Box number 589 – British Alpine Centre (Bavaria) 2001 – Combined Group Germany BLO Sigs, Pocking 2002 – Land Liason Office North Rhine Westphalia 2002 – British Consulate General Düsseldorf 2003 – NATO School SHAPE Oberammergau 2004 – ICAOC (Kalkar)/RF Air 2005 – ICAOC (Messtetten) – now CAOC2 Uedem 2006 – Adventure Training School Kiel 2007 – British Element 1 LRRP School Pfullendorf – now BLO Signals, Pocking 2008 – British Element MOD Bonn 2009 – British Consulate General Frankfurt – now closed 2010 – NETMA/BCG/BSSO München 2011 – Units located in Köln 2012 – British Embassy Bonn Office – now closed 2013 – Other units Bonn 2014 – Units in Koblenz – now OCCAR/COBRA 2015 – Hannover units – now BLO Infantry, Hammelburg 2016 – BLO Pionierschule 2017 – BLO GARFCOM, Koblenz 2019 – Naval Exchange Officer, Bremerhaven 2020 – German Armed Forces Staff College, Hamburg 2021 – The Naval Outdoor Centre 2022 – Exchange Officer in Jever
Isolated Detachments BFPO 808 – Northern Ireland Box number 811 – Bessbrook – now closed 812 – Dungannon – now closed 813 – Enniskillen – now closed 814 – Armagh – now closed 815 – Belfast, Girwood – now closed 816 – Belfast, MPH – now closed 825 – HQNI Complex – now closed
817 – 824 These BFPOs may be used periodically in support of operational deployments
JPW Let Gen
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 18/6/2012, 10:41
Gordon
Thank you but if you look carefully you will see your reference is a transcript of my original contribution to be still found off the site main, not forum, page.
There were gaps then, still more now following Steve and my ongoing researches into the 1945-48 period of BAOR
Ultimately I would love to produce of BAOR era post codes for the period 1947--52 in a similar format to Cynic's contribution but that is a long way off yet and may never be completed.
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 18/6/2012, 13:21
Steve.L Sgt
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 19/6/2012, 09:17
What happened to B.F.P.O. 33?
It used to be Bad Harzburg, Goslar but was later Hannover and area including Wölfenbuttel.
I expect it closed in the early 1990's when the R.A.C. recce unit was withdrawn.
jimsigs1 Let Gen
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 20/6/2012, 22:35
Steve.L, BFPO 33, Was it not Hannover !
Jimsigs1
Steve.L Sgt
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 21/6/2012, 08:09
jimsigs1,
Yes. I believe 33 was officially listed as Hannover but it covered a wide area including the old rest centres at Bad Harzburg and the barracks at Goslar and STC Silberhutte I think and may have extended to the Border crossing at Helmstedt although that was also covered by Berlin as most of the RMP and REME seemed to be based there.
This simple topic of B.F.P.O.'s seems to have generated lots of interest and correspondence and all interesting. I have seen some published lists but none as detailed as the ones listed above.
Steve
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 25/6/2014, 19:35
I was in Nienburg (21 Engr Regt) 81-84/5 and it was BFPO48
Paul
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Subject: Re: BFPO Numbers 25/6/2014, 21:34
Hamm, BFPO 103 Soest, BFPO 106 Gil Gil, Kenya, BFPO 10 That's all I know!
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