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+9brum BigJock Shelldrake ciphers Wilf alan8376 BobG JPW Louied 13 posters | |
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Louied Cpl
Number of posts : 18 Registration date : 2012-05-20
| Subject: BAOR ORBAT 1989 6/6/2013, 22:36 | |
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| | | JPW Let Gen
Number of posts : 1119 Age : 83 Localisation : Berkshire Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf Registration date : 2008-11-09
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 7/6/2013, 11:09 | |
| Louie
Congratulations on a superb document which I am sure will become a standard work of reference in years to come | |
| | | BobG Lt Col
Number of posts : 330 Age : 85 Localisation : Northumberland Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg, Verden, Liebenau, Hohne, Hamm, Duisburg, Minden, Hannover, Fallingbostal, Kuwait, UK, HK, USA/Can. Registration date : 2008-02-27
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 7/6/2013, 17:11 | |
| Louie Great document, you must have spent an amazing amount of time researching it. The amount of information you provide has broadened my knowledge in particular of the TA reinforcements to BAOR. Congratulations | |
| | | alan8376 Maj Gen
Number of posts : 778 Age : 76 Localisation : Norfolk, UK Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007. Registration date : 2009-07-28
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 7/6/2013, 21:31 | |
| I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!
Any tips anyone? | |
| | | Wilf Lt Col
Number of posts : 314 Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Bicester-Soltau-Canada-Kineton-Paderborn-Osnabruck (Inc Gulf 1) Donnington-Civy Strasse. Registration date : 2008-10-22
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/6/2013, 00:09 | |
| A superb document, which I'm sure will be poured over by many. However one minor adjustment if I may...
52 was an ammo company at Pombsen, 53 was an ammo company at Depot 90 (Normandy barracks Sennelager) | |
| | | ciphers Maj Gen
Number of posts : 978 Age : 91 Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton) Registration date : 2008-06-30
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/6/2013, 04:18 | |
| Adding to computer documents is a snip if you have a Mac. Just right click and from drop down menu choose Save linked file as, then add to documents ... Windows must have a similar program, they copy every other thing from Apple.
Len (Ciphers) | |
| | | Louied Cpl
Number of posts : 18 Registration date : 2012-05-20
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/6/2013, 05:26 | |
| Gentlemen thank you! My research is ongoing and I am depending on members of this forum. I have posted on the RAOConline forum where similiar discrepancies regarding 5 Ord Bn were pointed out. I will be revising the document over the weekend. Keep the corrections coming and again, I humbly thank you for appreciating my work.
Louie | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/6/2013, 07:27 | |
| - alan8376 wrote:
- I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!
Any tips anyone? Snap, but from what I can see of it, it looks excellent. I shall peruse the Gunner entries with a Gunner eye (when I can see it)! | |
| | | BigJock WOI
Number of posts : 117 Localisation : €uroland Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Arborfield, Bordon, Osnabrück, Paderborn and once again Paderborn. Registration date : 2011-06-14
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/6/2013, 11:07 | |
| - Shelldrake wrote:
- alan8376 wrote:
- I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!
Any tips anyone?
Snap, but from what I can see of it, it looks excellent. I shall peruse the Gunner entries with a Gunner eye (when I can see it)! Gents, once you open the link, look to the right hand side and you will see an orange coloured button marked 'Download or Print', just click on that to download a pdf version of the file. Hope that helps. | |
| | | BigJock WOI
Number of posts : 117 Localisation : €uroland Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Arborfield, Bordon, Osnabrück, Paderborn and once again Paderborn. Registration date : 2011-06-14
| | | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/6/2013, 11:55 | |
| - Shelldrake wrote:
- alan8376 wrote:
- I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!
Any tips anyone?
Snap, but from what I can see of it, it looks excellent. I shall peruse the Gunner entries with a Gunner eye (when I can see it)! Better than a Gunner ear, eh ? | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/6/2013, 14:55 | |
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| | | BobG Lt Col
Number of posts : 330 Age : 85 Localisation : Northumberland Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg, Verden, Liebenau, Hohne, Hamm, Duisburg, Minden, Hannover, Fallingbostal, Kuwait, UK, HK, USA/Can. Registration date : 2008-02-27
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/6/2013, 17:26 | |
| A thought which enters my mind is the fact that this huge ORBAT, within two years, ceased to have a role in Europe as result of the collapse of the USSR and bringing an end to BAOR and the introduction of BFG
BobG | |
| | | steve LE Maj
Number of posts : 1027 Age : 75 Localisation : near Cuxhaven Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln Registration date : 2010-02-14
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 9/6/2013, 08:41 | |
| - Louied wrote:
- Hello all,
After much research I am finally finished with this document, I will update it periodically. I just want to thank everyone again as this site was the major source of the following work. Enjoy!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/146180392/BAOR-July-1989-v-1
Excellent document many thanks for sharing have a correction for you 38 Engr Regt were Claro Barracks - Deverall Barracks is next door a TA/Cadets training camp Best regards Steve | |
| | | Nobby WOII
Number of posts : 79 Age : 64 Localisation : Leicester Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Tidworth, Sennelarger, Werl, Munsterlager, Catterick, Paderborn, Ripon, Detmold, Marchwood. Registration date : 2009-02-05
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 9/6/2013, 16:43 | |
| - steve wrote:
- Louied wrote:
- Hello all,
After much research I am finally finished with this document, I will update it periodically. I just want to thank everyone again as this site was the major source of the following work. Enjoy!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/146180392/BAOR-July-1989-v-1
Excellent document many thanks for sharing have a correction for you
38 Engr Regt were Claro Barracks - Deverall Barracks is next door a TA/Cadets training camp
Best regards Steve I concur with Steve on the correction as i served with 38 Engr Rect Wksp REME and were were all in Claro Barracks. Deverall Barracks was a transit camp for TA/Cadets and also used by regular units for things like cadres. I ran a JMC for 15 Fd Wksps in the late 80's at Deverall Barracks. | |
| | | steve LE Maj
Number of posts : 1027 Age : 75 Localisation : near Cuxhaven Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln Registration date : 2010-02-14
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 9/6/2013, 16:53 | |
| Nobby...when were you there? It was my last posting Jan 80 to mid 81, one of the Deverall Barracks spiders was annex to the Sgts Mess, my last bedspace... | |
| | | Nobby WOII
Number of posts : 79 Age : 64 Localisation : Leicester Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Tidworth, Sennelarger, Werl, Munsterlager, Catterick, Paderborn, Ripon, Detmold, Marchwood. Registration date : 2009-02-05
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 9/6/2013, 17:49 | |
| - steve wrote:
- Nobby...when were you there?
It was my last posting Jan 80 to mid 81, one of the Deverall Barracks spiders was annex to the Sgts Mess, my last bedspace... Hi Steve. I was there 93-94. I was then posted on promotion. Most of the quarters area was just like the houses in Coronation street, but as the estate warden knew me when i was posted to 15 Fd Wksp (he was the Sgt Major at the time), he ensured that i was housed in the new quarters that looked like Brookside Close. | |
| | | Louied Cpl
Number of posts : 18 Registration date : 2012-05-20
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 11/6/2013, 07:45 | |
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Last edited by Louied on 14/6/2013, 05:11; edited 1 time in total | |
| | | Louied Cpl
Number of posts : 18 Registration date : 2012-05-20
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 13/6/2013, 06:21 | |
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| | | Louied Cpl
Number of posts : 18 Registration date : 2012-05-20
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 30/7/2013, 07:03 | |
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| | | soprano54 WOI
Number of posts : 168 Age : 66 Localisation : Gloucestershire Cap Badge : RTR Places Served : Fallingbostel, Tidworth, Paderborn, Cyprus, Bovington, Hemer, NI, Coltishall, Incirlik, Benson Registration date : 2007-03-10
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 30/7/2013, 11:06 | |
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| | | Louied Cpl
Number of posts : 18 Registration date : 2012-05-20
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/8/2013, 06:07 | |
| Thank you all, Version 3.1 is up here: http://www.orbat85.nl/documents/BAOR-July-1989.pdfA couple of adjustments to the RAMC with info from the SOHB and other sources along with minor corrections/additions to some entries. I am currently working on a UKMF July 1989 ORBAT and will post it here. Just a note, many entries in this July 1989 ORBAT might have been post-1989. Where known I have indicated this. However my efforts to obtain the complete 1988 SOHB Amendment 3 (post 1990, before Options) has been to no avail. Similarly, the MOD document dump I received pertains to BAOR in 1991, they cannot find the relevant documents for 1989. From my research very little had changed but there seems to be a significant number of units, both Regular and TA, that were formed or were assigned a BAOR role post 1990. Louie | |
| | | JPW Let Gen
Number of posts : 1119 Age : 83 Localisation : Berkshire Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf Registration date : 2008-11-09
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 8/8/2013, 09:06 | |
| Louie
Congratulations on this masterpiece which sets a tremendous standard for others to emulate | |
| | | Crockroy LCpl
Number of posts : 9 Localisation : Around Paderborn/ Bielefeld Cap Badge : Ex RA - 50Msl, 12Regt, 20Bde Places Served : Menden, Dortmund, Bosnia, NI, Oman, Iraq, Canada, Rheindahlen, Bielefeld, Paderborn Registration date : 2019-12-11
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 12/12/2019, 14:40 | |
| Louie
I know this is thread is a few years old but I have just tripped over it and wanted to pass on my congrats on this monsterpiece - brilliant work and info.
Was it ever calculated how the total personnel were deployed to Germany at the time including families? | |
| | | Louied Cpl
Number of posts : 18 Registration date : 2012-05-20
| Subject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989 19/12/2019, 20:16 | |
| Thank you, I’m trying to get an update up before Christmas/New Years | |
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