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Louied
Cpl
Cpl


Number of posts : 15
Registration date : 2012-05-20

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PostSubject: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime6/6/2013, 22:36

Hello all,


After much research I am finally finished with this document, I will update it periodically. I just want to thank everyone again as this site was the major source of the following work. Enjoy!


http://www.scribd.com/doc/146180392/BAOR-July-1989-v-1
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JPW
Let Gen
Let Gen


Number of posts : 1117
Age : 79
Localisation : Berkshire
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf
Registration date : 2008-11-09

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime7/6/2013, 11:09

Louie

Congratulations on a superb document which I am sure will become a standard work of reference in years to come
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BobG
Lt Col
Lt Col


Number of posts : 330
Age : 81
Localisation : Northumberland
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg, Verden, Liebenau, Hohne, Hamm, Duisburg, Minden, Hannover, Fallingbostal, Kuwait, UK, HK, USA/Can.
Registration date : 2008-02-27

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime7/6/2013, 17:11

Louie

Great document, you must have spent an amazing amount of time researching it. The amount of information you provide has broadened my knowledge in particular of the TA reinforcements to BAOR.

Congratulations cheers cheers
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alan8376
Brig
Brig


Number of posts : 523
Age : 72
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime7/6/2013, 21:31

I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!

Any tips anyone?
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Wilf
Lt Col
Lt Col
Wilf

Number of posts : 314
Cap Badge : RAOC
Places Served : Bicester-Soltau-Canada-Kineton-Paderborn-Osnabruck (Inc Gulf 1) Donnington-Civy Strasse.
Registration date : 2008-10-22

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/6/2013, 00:09


A superb document, which I'm sure will be poured over by many. However one minor adjustment if I may...

52 was an ammo company at Pombsen, 53 was an ammo company at Depot 90 (Normandy barracks Sennelager)
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ciphers
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
ciphers

Number of posts : 975
Age : 87
Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/6/2013, 04:18

Adding to computer documents is a snip if you have a Mac. Just right click and from drop down menu choose Save linked file as, then add to documents ... Windows must have a similar program, they copy every other thing from Apple.

Len (Ciphers)
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Louied
Cpl
Cpl


Number of posts : 15
Registration date : 2012-05-20

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/6/2013, 05:26

Gentlemen thank you! My research is ongoing and I am depending on members of this forum. I have posted on the RAOConline forum where similiar discrepancies regarding 5 Ord Bn were pointed out. I will be revising the document over the weekend. Keep the corrections coming and again, I humbly thank you for appreciating my work.

Louie
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Shelldrake
FM
FM
Shelldrake

Number of posts : 3048
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/6/2013, 07:27

alan8376 wrote:
I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!

Any tips anyone?



Snap, but from what I can see of it, it looks excellent. I shall peruse the Gunner entries with a Gunner eye (when I can see it)! Laughing
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BigJock
WOI
WOI
BigJock

Number of posts : 117
Localisation : €uroland
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Arborfield, Bordon, Osnabrück, Paderborn and once again Paderborn.
Registration date : 2011-06-14

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/6/2013, 11:07

Shelldrake wrote:
alan8376 wrote:
I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!

Any tips anyone?



Snap, but from what I can see of it, it looks excellent. I shall peruse the Gunner entries with a Gunner eye (when I can see it)! Laughing

Gents, once you open the link, look to the right hand side and you will see an orange coloured button marked 'Download or Print', just click on that to download a pdf version of the file.
Hope that helps.
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BigJock
WOI
WOI
BigJock

Number of posts : 117
Localisation : €uroland
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Arborfield, Bordon, Osnabrück, Paderborn and once again Paderborn.
Registration date : 2011-06-14

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/6/2013, 11:15

BigJock wrote:
Shelldrake wrote:
alan8376 wrote:
I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!

Any tips anyone?



Snap, but from what I can see of it, it looks excellent. I shall peruse the Gunner entries with a Gunner eye (when I can see it)! Laughing

Gents, once you open the link, look to the right hand side and you will see an orange coloured button marked 'Download or Print', just click on that to download a pdf version of the file.
Hope that helps.

or scroll further down the page and you can select whether to save as pdf or txt file. (see iamge below)

BAOR ORBAT 1989 Downlo10
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brum
FM
FM


Number of posts : 2808
Age : 79
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/6/2013, 11:55

Shelldrake wrote:
alan8376 wrote:
I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!

Any tips anyone?



Snap, but from what I can see of it, it looks excellent. I shall peruse the Gunner entries with a Gunner eye (when I can see it)! Laughing

Better than a Gunner ear, eh ?
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Shelldrake
FM
FM
Shelldrake

Number of posts : 3048
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/6/2013, 14:55

BigJock wrote:
BigJock wrote:
Shelldrake wrote:
alan8376 wrote:
I have been trying to figure out how to save the document on my PC apart from using a Link!

Any tips anyone?



Snap, but from what I can see of it, it looks excellent. I shall peruse the Gunner entries with a Gunner eye (when I can see it)! Laughing

Gents, once you open the link, look to the right hand side and you will see an orange coloured button marked 'Download or Print', just click on that to download a pdf version of the file.
Hope that helps.

or scroll further down the page and you can select whether to save as pdf or txt file. (see iamge below)

BAOR ORBAT 1989 Downlo10


Tried both of those tip, think I might have to wait until I get back to the UK. Very Happy Very Happy
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BobG
Lt Col
Lt Col


Number of posts : 330
Age : 81
Localisation : Northumberland
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg, Verden, Liebenau, Hohne, Hamm, Duisburg, Minden, Hannover, Fallingbostal, Kuwait, UK, HK, USA/Can.
Registration date : 2008-02-27

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/6/2013, 17:26

A thought which enters my mind is the fact that this huge ORBAT, within two years, ceased to have a role in Europe as result of the collapse of the USSR and bringing an end to BAOR and the introduction of BFG

BobG
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steve
LE Maj
LE Maj
steve

Number of posts : 894
Age : 71
Localisation : near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date : 2010-02-14

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime9/6/2013, 08:41

Louied wrote:
Hello all,


After much research I am finally finished with this document, I will update it periodically.
I just want to thank everyone again as this site was the major source of the following work. Enjoy!


http://www.scribd.com/doc/146180392/BAOR-July-1989-v-1

Excellent document many thanks for sharing have a correction for you

38 Engr Regt were Claro Barracks - Deverall Barracks is next door a TA/Cadets training camp

Best regards
Steve
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Nobby
WOII
WOII
Nobby

Number of posts : 79
Age : 60
Localisation : Leicester
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Tidworth, Sennelarger, Werl, Munsterlager, Catterick, Paderborn, Ripon, Detmold, Marchwood.
Registration date : 2009-02-05

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime9/6/2013, 16:43

steve wrote:
Louied wrote:
Hello all,


After much research I am finally finished with this document, I will update it periodically.
I just want to thank everyone again as this site was the major source of the following work. Enjoy!


http://www.scribd.com/doc/146180392/BAOR-July-1989-v-1

Excellent document many thanks for sharing have a correction for you

38 Engr Regt were Claro Barracks - Deverall Barracks is next door a TA/Cadets training camp

Best regards
Steve

I concur with Steve on the correction as i served with 38 Engr Rect Wksp REME and were were all in Claro Barracks. Deverall Barracks was a transit camp for TA/Cadets and also used by regular units for things like cadres. I ran a JMC for 15 Fd Wksps in the late 80's at Deverall Barracks.
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steve
LE Maj
LE Maj
steve

Number of posts : 894
Age : 71
Localisation : near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date : 2010-02-14

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime9/6/2013, 16:53

Nobby...when were you there?
It was my last posting Jan 80 to mid 81, one of the Deverall Barracks spiders was annex to the Sgts Mess, my last bedspace...
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Nobby
WOII
WOII
Nobby

Number of posts : 79
Age : 60
Localisation : Leicester
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Tidworth, Sennelarger, Werl, Munsterlager, Catterick, Paderborn, Ripon, Detmold, Marchwood.
Registration date : 2009-02-05

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime9/6/2013, 17:49

steve wrote:
Nobby...when were you there?
It was my last posting Jan 80 to mid 81, one of the Deverall Barracks spiders was annex to the Sgts Mess, my last bedspace...
Hi Steve. I was there 93-94. I was then posted on promotion. Most of the quarters area was just like the houses in Coronation street, but as the estate warden knew me when i was posted to 15 Fd Wksp (he was the Sgt Major at the time), he ensured that i was housed in the new quarters that looked like Brookside Close.
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Louied
Cpl
Cpl


Number of posts : 15
Registration date : 2012-05-20

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime11/6/2013, 07:45

Thank you all, I have updated the document. If any former REME have any TA info it will be much appreciated.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/146180392/BAOR-July-1989-v-2


Last edited by Louied on 14/6/2013, 05:11; edited 1 time in total
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Louied
Cpl
Cpl


Number of posts : 15
Registration date : 2012-05-20

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime13/6/2013, 06:21

Hello all
Another revision; added another map, corrected some spelling issues, and added some RA/RE/RAOC info. It is also being hosted on this site:

http://www.orbat85.nl/documents/BAOR-July-1989.pdf
 
It is still up at the original link for now, there will be a major revision in a week or so as new info has been received.
 
Louie
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Louied
Cpl
Cpl


Number of posts : 15
Registration date : 2012-05-20

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime30/7/2013, 07:03

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soprano54
WOI
WOI
soprano54

Number of posts : 164
Age : 62
Localisation : Gloucestershire
Cap Badge : RTR
Places Served : Fallingbostel, Tidworth, Paderborn, Cyprus, Bovington, Hemer, NI, Coltishall, Incirlik, Benson
Registration date : 2007-03-10

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime30/7/2013, 11:06

Louied wrote:
Version 3 is now up

http://www.scribd.com/doc/146180392/BAOR-July-1989-v-3

Very good, note that 3RTR's HQ Sqn was actually called F sqn at the time!
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Louied
Cpl
Cpl


Number of posts : 15
Registration date : 2012-05-20

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/8/2013, 06:07

Thank you all,

Version 3.1 is up here:
http://www.orbat85.nl/documents/BAOR-July-1989.pdf

A couple of adjustments to the RAMC with info from the SOHB and other sources along with minor corrections/additions to some entries.

I am currently working on a UKMF July 1989 ORBAT and will post it here.

Just a note, many entries in this July 1989 ORBAT might have been post-1989. Where known I have indicated this. However my efforts to obtain the complete 1988 SOHB Amendment 3 (post 1990, before Options) has been to no avail. Similarly, the MOD document dump I received pertains to BAOR in 1991, they cannot find the relevant documents for 1989. From my research very little had changed but there seems to be a significant number of units, both Regular and TA, that were formed or were assigned a BAOR role post 1990.

Louie
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JPW
Let Gen
Let Gen


Number of posts : 1117
Age : 79
Localisation : Berkshire
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf
Registration date : 2008-11-09

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime8/8/2013, 09:06

Louie

Congratulations on this masterpiece which sets a tremendous standard for others to emulate
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Crockroy
LCpl
LCpl
Crockroy

Number of posts : 9
Localisation : Around Paderborn/ Bielefeld
Cap Badge : Ex RA - 50Msl, 12Regt, 20Bde
Places Served : Menden, Dortmund, Bosnia, NI, Oman, Iraq, Canada, Rheindahlen, Bielefeld, Paderborn
Registration date : 2019-12-11

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime12/12/2019, 14:40

Louie

I know this is thread is a few years old but I have just tripped over it and wanted to pass on my congrats on this monsterpiece - brilliant work and info.

Was it ever calculated how the total personnel were deployed to Germany at the time including families?
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Louied
Cpl
Cpl


Number of posts : 15
Registration date : 2012-05-20

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PostSubject: Re: BAOR ORBAT 1989   BAOR ORBAT 1989 Icon_minitime19/12/2019, 20:16

Thank you, I’m trying to get an update up before Christmas/New Years
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