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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime18/1/2012, 23:44

FMG..All those vets who are asking for jubilee medals comemorative medals and ye old milk bottle tops,will be petitioning to have full military funerals next... lol!
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Number of posts : 473
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Places Served : Aldershot, Marchwood, Longmoor, Dusseldorf,Munster,Ratingen,Longmoor
Registration date : 2011-11-12

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime18/1/2012, 23:52

These days I think I would be happy for them just to pay the funeral pale
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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 90
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime18/1/2012, 23:56

Ah well, that's that down the pan. I am more than content with my three.


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Number of posts : 978
Age : 91
Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime19/1/2012, 01:24

As a matter of interest when did the Active Service designation change to Home Posting for BAOR .. when I arrived in BAOR in January 1952 I can clearly recall it being On Active Service. Charge sheets AF 252 stated that '12345678 Signalman Bloggs, J. is charged subject to good order and military discipline under Section 40 of Kings Regulations that whilst on Active Service he did tell the Orderly Corporal to go Piss up a Rope' ..
I positive about this .. I think ..

Len (Ciphers)
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Number of posts : 1074
Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook)
Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places
Registration date : 2007-12-16

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ciphers wrote:
As a matter of interest when did the Active Service designation change to Home Posting for BAOR .. when I arrived in BAOR in January 1952 I can clearly recall it being On Active Service. Charge sheets AF 252 stated that '12345678 Signalman Bloggs, J. is charged subject to good order and military discipline under Section 40 of Kings Regulations that whilst on Active Service he did tell the Orderly Corporal to go Piss up a Rope' ..
I positive about this .. I think ..

Len (Ciphers)

The main question is, " did he piss up a rope"? Don't know how you could hurt the Orderly Cpl's feelings. Ahh, youth, so unfeeling.... affraid
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Number of posts : 978
Age : 91
Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime19/1/2012, 02:44

I don't know about Orderly Dog's feelings, but being a bit of a smart ass myself I completely forgot about the power of a Clerk. I had occasion to put one of the Sqn Clerks on a fizzer .. as I was in the Sqn Office writing up the charge I saw that I was up for guard commander, I asked the Sqn Office Cpl how come as I had only just come off guard a couple of days before. 'Its the new rota we have drawn up' he said waving it at me. I casually looked at it and said 'where's your name Cpl Bradley'. 'I don't do duties I'm the Sqn Clerk'.
About a week later when he was performing his first guard commander duty (her, hee), he banged on my billet door just after 11pm and said 'put your lights out inside'.

'Fxxk off brown nose'

... in that he 2256XXXX Cpl Payne. L, whilst on Active Service (Korea) is charged under Section 40 of the Army Act with conduct contrary to good order and military discipline told the Guard Commander 'to go forth and multiply' ... Severely Reprimanded. ... Moral, leave the bloody Sqn Clerks alone.

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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 90
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime19/1/2012, 09:33

Hi Ciphers,

Yes, I believe you may be right as I arrived in BAOR same year as you and I recollect the same thing - 'Whilst on active Service'


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Number of posts : 2808
Age : 83
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime19/1/2012, 10:54

[quote="JPW"]Bob G

"warmers into the bank".

It's a LONG time since I heard that expression !

Takes me back a bit. Sad
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Number of posts : 3048
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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jimsigs1 wrote:
Shelldrake,

Many thanks for your response. I have fired off an email to the German Staff College for any info.
Remember wandering around the City Centre then, there was a branch of Woolworth there and I purchased a very special pair of wedge shaped soled shoes costing DM48 - around £4 then. I wore them unti they fell apart after about 15 years (miser).


Jimsigs1



Have you received an acknowledgement yet, Jimsigs 1?
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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 90
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime19/1/2012, 14:49

No response yet Sheldrake, but will let you know ASP when I do/if I do receive an answer.

Jimsigs1
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Number of posts : 487
Cap Badge : raoc
Places Served : blackdown brackley , belgium . viersen
Registration date : 2011-03-21

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime19/1/2012, 19:44

hope he was charged wiv defacing W D property ie a rope .
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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime20/1/2012, 00:47

While we are on this medal malarky...Why do the RN wear their ribbons almost at shoulder hight, when the RAF and Army wear them above the breast pocket
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Number of posts : 3048
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime20/1/2012, 08:23

Good question, well presented - deserves an answer. Where's our resident Matelot from Glasgow? Laughing
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jimsigs1


Number of posts : 1298
Age : 90
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime20/1/2012, 09:27

It seems RN ratings do not have a pocket for guidance of placing medal ribbons on their uniforms. Officers however do but seem to have a larger lapel than Army/RAF.
Still a good question & I await the answer with interest.


Jimsigs1
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Daveb
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Number of posts : 105
Localisation : Bristol
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Iserlohn, Herford X 2
Registration date : 2010-12-16

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime20/1/2012, 09:29

To keep them dry longer when sinking?.
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Number of posts : 2808
Age : 83
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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[quote="Gordon."]While we are on this medal malarky

Just a thought.

Didn't NATO dish out a medal or two for the Balkans ?

Perhaps they could be persuaded to do a similar one for BAOR, they must have a few buckshee ones lying about.
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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 90
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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PostSubject: Re: MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS   MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS - Page 5 Icon_minitime21/1/2012, 13:32

Brum Dear Chap, what is the simliarity between the Balkans and BAOR ?

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Both begin with a B Jim Laughing
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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 90
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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I asked for that didn't Gordon. But seriously, the Balkans is not BAOR.
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Number of posts : 2808
Age : 83
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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NATO Balkans

NATO BAOR

Wish I hadn't bothered now ! Sad
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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 90
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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Brum,

Am I right in thinking that NATO issued a medal for those countries who participated in that particular conflict. Whereas there were not any various countries involved in service to the British Army of the Rhine. However, various countries did serve NATO against any such Soviet threat. Two different slices of the cake.


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Number of posts : 148
Registration date : 2008-07-09

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jimsigs1 wrote:
Brum,

Am I right in thinking that NATO issued a medal for those countries who participated in that particular conflict. Whereas there were not any various countries involved in service to the British Army of the Rhine. However, various countries did serve NATO against any such Soviet threat. Two different slices of the cake.


Jimsigs1

Hi all,

Does the General Service Medal 1918-1962 cover everyone who served anywhere during those years or not?

In BAOR in the early years the Russian threat was real

In 1952 my unit spent 6 weeks in Belgium preparing NATO stores depots, was that service with NATO

BAOR, they will get a medal when there are only a few left, wont be me

Tony RE
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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 90
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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Burgess720,

Read all about it, including the clasps etc at :

http://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/britishguide/general_service_1918.htm



Jimsigs1

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Number of posts : 28
Age : 86
Localisation : Grimsby
Cap Badge : R.E.M.E.
Places Served : UK,GERMANY,HONG KONG.
Registration date : 2012-01-11

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I have in my possession a medal you may have interest in supplied by MEDALS & DECORATIONS . Inscribed BRITISH FORCES GERMANY....ARMY 1945-1989 RAF ...on the face and on the back a laurel with no.rank name and years served there .The ribbon is wide blue then black,red yellow then wide blue .I also have a HONG KONG SERVICE MEDAL 1841-1997.
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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 90
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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Keith,



Think this is the medal you have in your possession, but its only a commemerative medal and officially not allowed to be worn with other Campaign/Service medals. The suppliers of these types of medals have found a gap in the market for collectors and those seeking some sort of recognition for service in places served, where no official medal was issued.
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