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+11Mike_2817 jim Themaadone Stitch. Stephen Lock ciphers graham wright Teabag whitehorse660 ChrisP brum 15 posters | |
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Stitch. Sgt
Number of posts : 29 Age : 89 Localisation : County Durham, England. Cap Badge : Gunner, Royal Artillery. Places Served : Oswestry Shropshire, Kirkee Camp; Mac-Munn Bks, Colchester Essex. West Riding Barracks, Dortmund Germany. Registration date : 2009-11-20
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 10/4/2010, 12:45 | |
| Hello Teabag, A Millstone round your neck, well yes `to some degree, one could say that, but then gradually that weight begins to shift. As time passes, your mortgage becomes a little lighter, and you find your home has grown in value. By which time also, you could have a little addition to your family. This then lets you know, that a one bedroom bungalow is no longer of much use to you. So you find now, that you need to move to a bigger house. With the gains you have made on the sale of your property, you then move on. A cycle of events now opens up, and you`ve now got a bigger (Millstone) round your neck. That said, had you been "renting" your bungalow, you would have had nothing. My father always said, to `speculate is to accumulate!!! Although it`s not always the case. However I would just like to say this `if i may, `that same property i purchased all those years ago, sold recently for £145,000 Stitch. | |
| | | Stephen Lock Maj Gen
Number of posts : 937 Age : 71 Localisation : Calgary Cap Badge : Pads Brat Places Served : Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter Registration date : 2007-12-28
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 11/4/2010, 06:43 | |
| Plus, if you're renting, you're at the mercy and whim of some landlord...who's pocket you're lining with your hardearned money.
We should have bought a few years ago but didn't. Can't even begin to afford to now, sadly...could have then. But I had such an aversion to packing up and moving (growing up Army totally was the cause of that particular neurosis!) I kept putting it off, sluffing it off, etc etc that it just never happened. I regret that to this day, big time! Ah well....too late now and I'd never qualify for a mortgage anyway (could have easily 5-6 years ago. Live and learn, I suppose....) | |
| | | Themaadone Maj
Number of posts : 270 Localisation : Near London Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan Registration date : 2010-09-02
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 6/9/2010, 16:06 | |
| The Queens Silver Jubilee parade in Sennelager.
I was 5 years old and My Dad, my mum, my brother and sister and I were sat watching it from the seated area to the front. I recall the vehicles driving along but obviously didn't appreciate the significance. I remember dozens of lorries, cars, motorbikes, tanks etc and uniforms all over.
My Dad was in No2,s, Sam Browne, Peaked Cap - in fact the only time I remember him wearing it.
My Father was the RSM of 25Tpt & Mov Regt RCT at the time and in charge of co-ordinating the vehicular movement of the entire parade etc. He was one of the lucky few who was awarded the silver jubilee medal, which I now have along with presentation scroll from Buckingham palace.
I have programmes, and other ephemera which my father saved and which upon him passing became mine.
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| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 7/9/2010, 09:17 | |
| Martin, do you remember the noise and the shock of the spectators when the tanks fired that salute?
I laughed my socks off. | |
| | | Themaadone Maj
Number of posts : 270 Localisation : Near London Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan Registration date : 2010-09-02
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 7/9/2010, 10:09 | |
| I can remember a rumble but bearing in mind I was 5 years old.... memory fails me for all the wrong reasons now.
I recall wearing beige soks, brown sandals, dark blue shorts and a short sleeved shirt and.... and.... I was holding a small union flag which I was waving all the time. I was a little surprised when Dad and Mum and all others kept standing up and sitting down all the time - I realise it must have been colours and Guns coming round... | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 8/9/2010, 11:49 | |
| They said you could hear the guns all the way to Bielefeld and Herford. | |
| | | Themaadone Maj
Number of posts : 270 Localisation : Near London Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan Registration date : 2010-09-02
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 8/9/2010, 12:04 | |
| Now that would have been a distance to travel at the best of times - wind must have been favourable. | |
| | | Mike_2817 LE Maj
Number of posts : 643 Localisation : North Yorkshire Cap Badge : RAOC Registration date : 2009-08-27
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 8/9/2010, 15:42 | |
| I was Helicopter Dispersal Site Marshal and did not get to see the parade! but certainly heard it... _________________ Sua Tela Tonanti
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| | | dandc Lt Col
Number of posts : 383 Age : 74 Localisation : gateshead Cap Badge : 15/19H.ARMY AIR CORPS Places Served : tidworth, fallingbostle, detmold, hongkong, minden Registration date : 2009-05-22
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 8/9/2010, 18:16 | |
| may i ask at what site that would be mike,the VVIP site or one of the other sites concered with the fly past,some of my AAC friends might remember you | |
| | | Mike_2817 LE Maj
Number of posts : 643 Localisation : North Yorkshire Cap Badge : RAOC Registration date : 2009-08-27
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 8/9/2010, 18:30 | |
| It was the STC Playing Fieks and some of the lesser VIP Helicopters were dispersed with passengers being picked up by staff car. Mainly RAF Wessex & Puma. I was Company Helicopter Marchall, and Load Net Inspector for 44 (RP) Company (Ammunition), 1 (BR) Combat Supplies Battalion at the time, as well as 49 (RP) Company (POL) at times. _________________ Sua Tela Tonanti
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| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 8/9/2010, 22:12 | |
| - Quote :
- They said you could hear the guns all the way to Bielefeld and Herford.
I didn`t hear them |
| | | dandc Lt Col
Number of posts : 383 Age : 74 Localisation : gateshead Cap Badge : 15/19H.ARMY AIR CORPS Places Served : tidworth, fallingbostle, detmold, hongkong, minden Registration date : 2009-05-22
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 8/9/2010, 23:09 | |
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| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 9/9/2010, 09:31 | |
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- They said you could hear the guns all the way to Bielefeld and Herford.
I didn`t hear them There's aslways one isn't there. | |
| | | steve LE Maj
Number of posts : 1027 Age : 75 Localisation : near Cuxhaven Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln Registration date : 2010-02-14
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 13/9/2010, 18:00 | |
| Served with 40 Army Support Regiment Kitchener Barracks Willich at the time of the Silver Jubilee 1977 but was not involved myself as was doing other things…being BAOR engineer support a sergeant in the Engineer Base Workshop worked through the night to get the saluting dais ready on time and the higher command was very pleased and wanted him to have a Queens Jubilee Medal but the regiment only had one allocated...going to the CO so somebody in JHQ missed out and the medal was allocated to this sergeant…cannot remember this from the time but came out at a reunion at Willich last year Cheers Steve | |
| | | steve LE Maj
Number of posts : 1027 Age : 75 Localisation : near Cuxhaven Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln Registration date : 2010-02-14
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 13/9/2010, 18:43 | |
| Brum, Gallahad Atleast two of the Chieftain MBT , not ARV, of a well known Cavalry Regiment on the Queen's Jubilee Parade at Sennelager were driven by members of the Squadron Fitter Section, sadly wearing their parent Regiment not REME capbadge despite their EME's protests Hi JPW Not good for the REME...at least the Royal Signals had a better deal here Excuse me switching to another thread Cheers Steve | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 13/9/2010, 19:02 | |
| Thanks Steve.
Just to confuse the nmatter further, that an Irish Ranger in the 432 !
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| | | steve LE Maj
Number of posts : 1027 Age : 75 Localisation : near Cuxhaven Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln Registration date : 2010-02-14
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 14/9/2010, 08:48 | |
| Hi Brum Could have been the GOC's ADC Cheers Steve | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 14/9/2010, 09:25 | |
| Don't think so, the cap badge doesn't look woven to me?
and what about that 432, looks like way too many hatches to me? | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 14/9/2010, 09:57 | |
| It looks like they'd taken the flotation screen off.
The Ranger looks like he was put there as a last minute space - filler !
What are those round things, above the headlights ?
brum
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| | | Themaadone Maj
Number of posts : 270 Localisation : Near London Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan Registration date : 2010-09-02
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 14/9/2010, 10:09 | |
| The 432 looks like the variant which could accomodate a mortar. The rear, top, hatches would open allowing the mortar crew to use the 432 as a mobile firing platform. | |
| | | Teabag Maj Gen
Number of posts : 960 Age : 74 Localisation : Merseyside Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold Registration date : 2008-10-30
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 14/9/2010, 10:37 | |
| - jim wrote:
- Don't think so, the cap badge doesn't look woven to me?
and what about that 432, looks like way too many hatches to me? No it is correct. Driver, commander and mortar hatches. Like Brum I haven't a clue what those round things are. | |
| | | steve LE Maj
Number of posts : 1027 Age : 75 Localisation : near Cuxhaven Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln Registration date : 2010-02-14
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 14/9/2010, 14:12 | |
| - jim wrote:
- Don't think so, the cap badge doesn't look woven to me?
and what about that 432, looks like way too many hatches to me? Hi Jim I think the Irish Ranger officers had a shiny badge but could be wrong...not sure about the subject of 432s but seem to remember the hatches were different on Sapper versions the commander directly behind the driver and no room for two and a big hatch behind so we could access the top boxes Cheers Steve (33C 77/78) | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 14/9/2010, 14:53 | |
| The command version of the 432 only had one top hatch that I do know. I never realised there were so many variations. I did know about the 434 though. | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 14/9/2010, 15:28 | |
| Mortar hatches were bog standard on all FV432. Over time locally - made kit stowage was fitted on the top, illegal I'm sure but there was a lot of space going to waste up there.
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| | | BobG Lt Col
Number of posts : 330 Age : 85 Localisation : Northumberland Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg, Verden, Liebenau, Hohne, Hamm, Duisburg, Minden, Hannover, Fallingbostal, Kuwait, UK, HK, USA/Can. Registration date : 2008-02-27
| Subject: Re: Silver Jubilee 1977 14/9/2010, 16:49 | |
| It was amazing the lengths some COs would go in preparation for the parade. 4 Div Tpt Regt were provding their Stalwarts for the drive past, but before that they were going on an Op Banner tour. Prior to their departure the CO summoned me to his office, I was OC Wksp, and told that he wanted all the stallys resprayed and for them to have identical cam patterns. Fortunately I had some good contacts in 37 Rhine Wksp who were able to help me out, there was no way we could have done it ourselves as we had no respray facilities. Fotunately for me the CO was pleased as he had a bad reputation for his temper. Thank goodness for the old boy network which we must have all relied upon at times to get us out of the provebial.
Bob
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