MEDAL FOR BAOR TROOPS

Sorry mate of course many more in all the conflicts you mentioned. Selfishly refurring to my two op tours no offence meant to anyone involved in any other wars/conflicts.

Tommy,

No offence given and I'm sure you are as proud to wear your awards for Bosnia & N Ireland as all others for their particular theatres of operation.

Shame about the latest situation where by not medal was issued for those engaged in dangerous in work escorting convoys in the North Atlantic to Russia. It took 50 years for the Suez bar to GSM to be issued. Now, had that been the USA, that's another story.

Jimsigs1

Not worried about a medal for my time in BAOR (I loved it over there 1983 to 2000), I have seen some people wearing BAOR lapel pins similar to the Armed Forces Veterans one though. I presume privately bought like the commemorative medals.

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Talking about medals, official or otherwise, get a load of these




Belonged to a former member of The Royal Warwickshire Regiment

Jimsigs1

Well Well, Monty wearing Bling what next

Daveb, well spotted. Must have been a clue or two there.


Jimsigs1

jimsigs1 wrote:

Tommy,

No offence given and I'm sure you are as proud to wear your awards for Bosnia & N Ireland as all others for their particular theatres of operation.

Shame about the latest situation where by not medal was issued for those engaged in dangerous in work escorting convoys in the North Atlantic to Russia. It took 50 years for the Suez bar to GSM to be issued. Now, had that been the USA, that's another story.

Jimsigs1

There was a medal for those escorting the convoys to Russia. It was given out rather late by the Russian govt. I remember seeing it in the paper or Legion Magazine. It went only to those still alive. Possibly it was meant for merchant navy I'm not sure.

Hardrations,

Here it is, The Russian Convoy Medal :
here


Jimsigs1

jimsigs1 wrote:

Hardrations,

Here it is, The Russian Convoy Medal :
here


Jimsigs1

Right. So who qualified for it?

From http://www.veterans-uk.info/medals/russian.html

The Russian Convoy Medal

The awarding of Russian Medals to British veterans
In the past, the Russian Government has offered medals to British veterans to commemorate significant anniversaries of the end of the Second World War. An approach was made to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) by the Russian authorities in the mid-1980s when their 40th Anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War Medal (also known more commonly as the Russian Convoy Medal) was offered to British ex-Servicemen. Originally instituted in 1985 and offered to British veterans shortly afterwards, permission was not granted for it to be accepted and worn at that time. Some years later, further official approaches by the Russians to the British Government through the FCO were reconsidered. In 1994 The Queen granted permission for this medal to be accepted and worn by eligible British citizens. This was considered acceptable in the light of changed circumstances in Russia since the medal was first issued, the improvement in relations between the United Kingdom and the Russian Federation, and the fact that the medal was a commemorative issue, recognising the passing of forty years since the end of the war, rather than a foreign campaign medal. It was made clear at that time that it was not envisaged that permission would be given for any future anniversary medals issued by foreign or Commonwealth Governments to be accepted and worn by British citizens where they related to services wholly rendered more than five years prior to the proposal to make the award.

Despite this, the Russian authorities made a similar approach to the British Government in 1995 when they produced their 50th Anniversary of Victory commemorative medal. They were advised that permission to receive and wear this medal would not be sought from The Queen as The Sovereign does not recognise awards that commemorate an anniversary where permission has already been granted to receive and wear an award for an earlier anniversary of the same event.
Following discussions we have had with our counterparts in the FCO we can confirm that last year the Russian authorities approached them with a formal request that their new 60th anniversary medal be awarded to British veterans. As with the other Russian medals this is entirely a matter for the FCO which is carefully deliberating the request, as are all similar requests from foreign governments.

Arctic veterans who did not apply for the Russian Convoy Medal (the 40th anniversary medal) will be pleased to learn that the Ministry of Defence Medal Office has located a small stock of medals which were not sent out during the mid-Nineties. They will issue these on a first come, first served basis to all those veterans who served on the convoys to Northern Russia who had not previously applied for the medal. In common with other Russian medals, the Russian Convoy Medal is not awarded posthumously. Please complete the attached application form and send it to the medal office. You should bear in mind that in view of the continued interest in medals, parcticularly since the events last year to mark the 60th anniversary of the end of the Second World War, there will be an unavoidable delay before any medals will be issued.

Application form for the medal

http://www.veterans-uk.info/pdfs/medals/russian.pdf

tommy16 wrote:

Said this earlier on mate, and a couple of knobjockeys on here made silly remarks about it!

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"it was not envisaged that permission would be given for any future anniversary medals issued by foreign or Commonwealth Governments to be accepted and worn by British citizens where they related to services wholly rendered more than five years prior to the proposal to make the award."

"does not recognise awards that commemorate an anniversary where permission has already been granted to receive and wear an award for an earlier anniversary of the same event."

Jubilee medals excepted of course!.

I see they applied the non existent "five year rule" again and backed it up with the double medal-ling rule, smooth if predictable.

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Said this earlier on mate, and a couple of knobjockeys on here made silly remarks about it!

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This is Shelldrake, can I persuade you to reconsider?

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Hallo Brum

This is Shelldrake, can I persuade you to reconsider?

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Brum ....As the saying goes.."better the w****r that you know than the upstart you don`t.Hang about mate.Shelldrake can`t handle us siggys on his own

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tommy16 wrote:

Said this earlier on mate, and a couple of knobjockeys on here made silly remarks about it!


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Hallo Brum

This is Shelldrake, can I persuade you to reconsider?

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Brum ....As the saying goes.."better the w****r that you know than the upstart you don`t.Hang about mate.Shelldrake can`t handle us siggys on his own

OVER AND OUT. (Just to annoy Teabag....)

Well said Gordon - fighting a bleedin' Rear Guard action on my own here!!

Like your new avatar Shelldrake....Very apt...Not sure if Teabag will approve tho.

Shelldrake,

Like the teabag avatar. I see that Anthony Worrell (pictured on the front) is in the news for all the wrong reasons in connection with his local branch of Tesco - Henly on Thames.

Secondly, mentioning tea I got onto NAAFI the other day to buy one of their little packs of tea & a commemerative mug and was told that NAAFI tea is now owned by Ringtons and they do not do the mugs anymore. What's the world coming to.


Jimsigs1

Jimsigs 1


I understand that NAAFI have now been taken over by SPAR, but not to worry, the service is still the same!!

No improvement then Shelldrake?????

Shelldrake,

What's the story old chap

Jimsigs1

Are you off to Sunny Cyprus again this year, Jimsigs 1?

Hi Shelldrake,

I think I will give it a miss for a couple of years. We did two years on the trot - 2010 & 2011.
Going to Washington DC with one of my Sons in March (been a couple of times before). Although we will have a look around Arlington, Smithsonian etc, we are going to vist the West Point Academy. A bit of a drive (266 miles from DC) but we will stay the night in a local motel. Going to see the grave of Custer and one or two other notables. Also in the museum they have Goering's Reich-Marshal Baton etc. Also going to visit Gettysberg.
So its not long now. Will have to make it up to the wife by going somewhere for the Summer.

JimSigs1

I know this is 'off topic' but is anyone else using a Mac and having a problem logging on. For about the past hour when I attempt to log on I get a Microsoft message telling me I must now use Firefox as the browser on this site. I keep far away from Windows as I possibly can. To post this I had to go back into my machines 'history' and review an older post, then access the forum that way. All my other sites are working 'A OK' using Mac Safari.

Len (Ciphers)

OK Guy's, sorted ... now able to log on without going to Firefox ... took a bit of thinking but my 'little grey cells' were up to the job ..

Len (Ciphers)

What do you think the problem was Ciphers ? I use the ordinary Google running under IE 7.
Incidentally, I have just bought a new laptop having saved up some pennies. Its an HP and Currys/PC world had a sale on over Christmas. Gone for a Core i5 with Windows 7 64 bit, so its a bit faster thatn myold one.

Jimsigs1

I too had problems similar to Cyphers when I attempted to log in at about 1745Z.

Got straight in this time, hope our far eastern friend who attempts to sell t shirts on this site from time to time had not hacked in.