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Warrant Officer Class III (Troop Sergeant-. Major) was introduced early in WWII and wore the Large Crown, while WOII's wore the Crown in Wreath. The rank was obsolite by 1945, and in 1946 WOII CSM/SSM''s started to wear the Large Crown and WOII RQMS etc wore the Crown in Wreath.

Prior to 1965 the RAOC had WO1 Conductors and WO1 Sub-Conductors, and the RASC had WO1 Staff Sargeant Major, First Class, and WO1 Staff Sargeant Majors (SSM)

In 1965 and the splitting of the RASC between the RCT & RAOC all SSM's Ist Class & SSM's which were a Supply Appountmrnt went to the RAOC

In 1969 the Appointments were rationalised, and all SSM st Class became Conductors RAOC, and all Sub-Conductors became Staff Sergeant Majors RAOC.

Like Jim I was a WO1 SSM, but my farther was a WO1 Sub-Conductor.

Conductors RAOC which is an appountment are only selected from WO1 SSM's and not WO1's who were RSM (aka Regimental WO1's)

But as in all things military there were exceptions, and the Chief WO1 instructor at the School of Ordnance [now Logistics] at Deepcut could be an RD/MTI [as QM WO's were not a Storeman Trade beleave it or not in the RAOC but RD/MTI] and hold the appointment of SSM, and be selected as a Conductor, as did Charlie White in 1993 and later went on to be Corps RSM of the RLC, the only WO1 to hold all 3 appointments!

Phil - Sir

As newly promoted to cpl I find I have also been transferred from RE to REME I don't think the latter corps members would appreciate having a Sapper in their midst. Is it possible to transfer me back into Royal Engineers please?
Also is it possible for me to upload an avatar showing a Berlin patch (red circle with Berlin over the top) or do I have to earn that privilege by further promotion?

Permission to dismiss Sir

BerlinSapper

Think the Berlin patch is in use by someone./

BerlinSapper wrote:

Phil - Sir

As newly promoted to cpl I find I have also been transferred from RE to REME I don't think the latter corps members would appreciate having a Sapper in their midst. Is it possible to transfer me back into Royal Engineers please?
Also is it possible for me to upload an avatar showing a Berlin patch (red circle with Berlin over the top) or do I have to earn that privilege by further promotion?

Permission to dismiss Sir

BerlinSapper

It appears we are stuck with what we have depending on how many messages we have posted...I have now reached RE Major and do not wish to rise any further...regarding avatars it seems you can upload what you wish

what happens when somebody reaches 2500 post and become FM ???

He/She goes down a snake.

"My eyes are dim I cannot see, I have not brought my specs with me......"
I understand the manner in which the graphics are set up now, having re-read the Standing Orders.
Now if somebody had a grandchild with a graphics application on their computer, I am sure they would be able to knock up some graphics which split the rank from the Unit, in about 0 seconds flat.........

Like so

I thought it was only youngsters who could do magic like that Gordon. You must be a lot younger than your age states.

Now all that is needed is an insignia for every possible unit that served in BAOR. I wonder how many hundred that would be.

BerlinSapper

Just a suggestion when some one reaches Field Marshall revert back to (in honour of our Canadian friends) Canadian Rank & Insignia could be quite fun start again or even RAF rank(don't scream)

Royal Navy rank would be different - how does that work?

Shelldrake wrote:

Royal Navy rank would be different - how does that work?

at least were on the same WAVElengh!!!!! excuse the pun

"john boy" wrote:

Just a suggestion when some one reaches Field Marshall revert back to (in honour of our Canadian friends) Canadian Rank & Insignia could be quite fun start again or even RAF rank(don't scream)

Naah, let's have Italian badges of rank.

I think they start off as captain, don't they ?

hey fellas we're a democracy so lets have a vote but here is another suggestion
SCOUT BADGES

Well I'll make a start by providing a shoulder flash for the RE

What new rank structure?

Go back to sleep Jim

I CAN'T BELIEVE MY EYES! I JUST REALIZED I'VE BEEN PROMOTED FROM WO1 TO CAPTAIN! I'll get the drinks in as soon as I pick myself up off the floor and run out to find a military tailor.

On the other hand...it is April 1st....

Mike_2817,

Intersting, the rank of WOIII. My late Dad was a WOIII but was called a PSM (Platoon Sergeant Major) This was in Eritrea 1940-1 whilst he was serving with the 1st Bn Worcestershire Regt. He then was promoted to a war time commission as a Lt.

jimsigs1

Hi Folks,

How does one about obtaininf an Avatar underneath your rank badge.

jimsigs1

Jim... go to your profile,click on avatar and follow the instructions,

Gordon,

Went to profile but no reference to anything to do with Avatar..

jimsigs1

On top of the information registration box Jim You should see this line.Just click on avatar


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Gordon,

Found it and here is my 'work of art' Of all the flashes I worn on my uniform sleeve during my service, this one invokes lots of memories for me as it was my real first time overseas posting and things were really buzzing out there then, even although it was the autumn of the Commonwealth Divison etc.
Once again thanks for your pointing me in the right direction Gordon.

Jimsigs1

What is the most senior rank on this site and who holdeth that rank?