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jerry
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ciphers
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
ciphers


Number of posts : 978
Age : 88
Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

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PostSubject: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime11/9/2010, 17:47


Lets get behind this boys ..

Len (Ciphers)
Soldiers' Pensions - More MoD parsimony

For those of you who don't know, Sergeant Matty Telford was killed 3rd Nov2009 by a rogue Afghan Policeman. Now, you will all remember him from the news as Sergeant Matty Telford but the army give his children his pension at Corporal rate because he was a Sergeant for less than a year. The unfairnessof this is that he was promoted so he could do this job in Afghanistan and had he not been promoted he would have been doing a different job and may have been with us today. After this petition was started it came to light that this is happening to a lot of our soldiers' families.

If a soldier was being paid as a sergeant when he was killed, then it seems to me that that should be the basis for his widow's pension.
If you agree, please sign.

http://soldiers-pensions.co.uk/?q=petition

(In signing the petition you will not be expressing a political opinion on any of the conflicts our servicemen are dispatched to.)

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recymech
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WOII
recymech


Number of posts : 81
Age : 54
Localisation : Bad Fallingbostel
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Bordon, Nuneaton, NI, Paderborn, Poland, Czech Republic, Sennelager, Osnabruck, Canada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo, Cyprus, Bad Fallingbostel.
Registration date : 2008-06-24

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime11/9/2010, 18:23

Signed.
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oldtimer
WOII
WOII
oldtimer


Number of posts : 99
Age : 74
Localisation : Manchester
Cap Badge : RCT
Places Served : Yeovil, Bunde, Lubbecke,camp du larzac, norway,rct winter training centre hinterstien, Aldershot,
Registration date : 2009-09-22

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime11/9/2010, 20:04

what a disgrace. signed
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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime11/9/2010, 23:13

Saw that somewhere else to day Len..Signed
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ciphers
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
ciphers


Number of posts : 978
Age : 88
Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime12/9/2010, 07:04

On Brian Streetly's site Gordon ..

Len (Ciphers)
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Themaadone
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Maj
Themaadone


Number of posts : 270
Localisation : Near London
Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC
Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan
Registration date : 2010-09-02

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime12/9/2010, 14:54

signed
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Teabag
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
Teabag


Number of posts : 960
Age : 72
Localisation : Merseyside
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold
Registration date : 2008-10-30

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime12/9/2010, 15:26

Bloody pen pushers.

signed.
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Mike_2817
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LE Maj
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Number of posts : 643
Localisation : North Yorkshire
Cap Badge : RAOC
Registration date : 2009-08-27

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime12/9/2010, 16:46

It has always been the case since 1975 (AFPS75) that the pension scheme paid for the 2 highest years substansive rank in the last 5 years of service for OR's, and unfortunately that applied to the Widows Pensions as well, and a few cases were highlighted over the years. I agree 100% that it is wrong and should be looked at again in light of currant operational circumstances.

Duly signed, but hold out little hope of any further change, as the new AFPS05 now says a year... But sould be abolished all together for 'Killed in service'


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jerry
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jerry


Number of posts : 186
Age : 81
Localisation : Abergele
Cap Badge : RASC/RCT
Places Served : Dortmund/Hameln/ Malaya FARELF Marchwood Aldershot Yeovil
Registration date : 2008-10-04

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime12/9/2010, 19:22

Signed
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whitehorse660
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Number of posts : 63
Localisation : wiltshire
Cap Badge : RMP
Places Served : Herford, Werl (twice), Berlin, Dusseldorf, Dortmund, Sennelager.
Registration date : 2009-11-23

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime12/9/2010, 21:30

Signed.
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Let Gen
Let Gen
Hardrations


Number of posts : 1062
Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook)
Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places
Registration date : 2007-12-16

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime13/9/2010, 04:25

Now some pen pusher here in DND HQ's in Ottawa is going to see this and think it's a great idea for our lads on active service.

Signed
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jim
Let Gen
Let Gen
jim


Number of posts : 1291
Localisation : Sutton Coldfield
Cap Badge : RAOC
Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK
Registration date : 2008-01-03

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime13/9/2010, 10:06

already signed.
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Pborn4
Brig
Brig
Pborn4


Number of posts : 504
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Preserved Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime21/11/2020, 02:50

Pensions, Preserved Pensions - seems some have not claimed?  Shocked  Perhaps believing pay out would be automatic.  
It isn't  -  if you have entitlement you have to claim.    
Lump sum is 3 times annual rate (tax free) at the point the pension goes in to issue,
and then a regular somewhat indexed link monthly (in arrears) pay out:  Soldiers Pensions Pensio10


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Number of posts : 504
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Service Pensions (Officers or Soldiers)   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime10/6/2021, 18:58

Everyone's Pension Matters

Armed Forces Pension Scheme reached me with their "AFPS Quarterly Digest"  - they still haven't got to me with the Veterans' ID Card - suspect it will be nailed on my box where the 3rd ID Disc should go!

However, of essential interest to those drawing an AFPS pension - this year's increase looks to be 0.5 % - just a ha'penny in the pound!  Spend it wisely chaps! or donate it - you won't miss it!


BUT I get the Newsletter because I have claimed  Preserved Pension or at least spoken/written to the Veterans UK so they have my address (have had three moves since leaving the Colours), arrangements can be made for homeless vets to be given contact address - get known homeless vets to speak to nearest Regt Association or RBL or Vets Org

And those who have not claimed yet?   (In some circmstances, best discussed with the help desk, late applications might be backdated).
"Veterans approaching pension age (or who have not yet CLAIMED)   should use AFPS Form 8 around 3 months BEFORE reaching pension age:
NOTE:
                Under AFPS 75  at age 60
                Under AFPS 05  at age 65
                Under AFPS 15  at UK State Pension age (67?)

and when your preserved pension starts there is also a lump sum coming in at THREE times the annual rate of pension (UK tax free)

Completed AFPS 8 (obtained from
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/veterans-uk-armed-forces-pensions-forms  )  
to be submitted to: Veterans UK, Mailpoint 335, Kentigern House, 65 Brown Street, GLASGOW, G2 8EX."

From the form claimants can see arrangements can be made for people without Bank/Building Society accounts, for homeless veterans and/or for those living outside UK

 Help is available from JPAC Enquiry Centre on (UK callers)  0800 085 3600, or 0044 141 224 3600 if calling from abroad  - you will need your National Insurance Number, and Service Number for reference.


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Brig
Brig
Pborn4


Number of posts : 504
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Applying for Forces' Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime25/11/2021, 19:03

Applications for Army Pensions - see here:  https://www.gov.uk/guidance/veterans-uk-armed-forces-pensions-forms#opting-inout-of-the-armed-forces-pension-scheme

and for those with Preserved Pension Rights (you have to apply and keep the Pension Office up to date with your  valid address/bank arrangements)

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1019435/AFPS_Form_8.pdf

Once you are in receipt of a Pension you can register for the Forces Discount Scheme - even before the Veteran's ID Card arrives!
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Pborn4
Brig
Brig
Pborn4


Number of posts : 504
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

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PostSubject: Re: Soldiers Pensions   Soldiers Pensions Icon_minitime10/1/2022, 19:49

Addendum:  Make sure Veterans who have no Bank Account or Fixed Home Address or
are otherwise off the Grid,
are aware that alternative arrangements can be made :

https://www.bigissue.com/news/housing/homeless-bank-accounts-without-one-you-might-as-well-not-exist/

quote:

"Applications for Army Pensions - see here:  
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/veterans-uk-armed-forces-pensions-forms#opting-inout-of-the-armed-forces-pension-scheme


https://www.bigissue.com/news/housing/homeless-bank-accounts-without-one-you-might-as-well-not-exist/
and for those with Preserved Pension Rights (you have to apply and

keep the Pension Office up to date with your valid contact address/bank arrangements)

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1019435/AFPS_Form_8.pdf

Once you are in receipt of a Pension you can register for the Forces Discount Scheme - even before the Veteran's ID Card arrives!  "

https://support.veteransgateway.org.uk/app/answers/detail/a_id/395/~/unclaimed-service-pensions


Am I owed a pension?
Initially, individuals had to serve for five years and be at least age 26 to qualify.
From April 1988, qualification period reduced to two years paid service from age 18
(21 for Officers).

The only veterans who will never receive pensions are those who:

Left before April 1975 without an immediate pension.
Only served for a very short time.
Transferred their preserved pensions out of the AFPS.
Served on gratuity earning terms rather than pensionable terms.
Forfeited their pension for disciplinary reasons.  (check this last condition; some changes in 2022)
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